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Doc
30-Jul-2010, 02:20 AM
I might have to go with probably Texas Chainsaw Massacre. For all the others, whatever others may think, they a decent mythology and a cult of fandom around them.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre never was a series, or had a unity of continuity. The films were always seperate. Though, I admit Pt. 2 was entertaining as, hell.

Jaws is defiantly, another one. The original is a pure classic, and the sequels pretty much, scaled things down.

JDFP
30-Jul-2010, 02:23 AM
Hmm... off the top of my head I can think of two...

The Exorcist.
The Blair Witch Project.

j.p.

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 02:24 AM
The Exorcist, American Psycho, Saw, (as you mentioned) Jaws, and of course....Day of the Dead.

Doc
30-Jul-2010, 02:32 AM
The Exorcist.

It has sequels! I didn't know that!:stunned:



and of course....Day of the Dead.

Land of the Dead? :p:elol:


I kid, but I actually did have too think a few seconds that you were talking about that horrible Day of the Dead 2: Contaguim or whatever, the hell it's called.


So like, is it even worth a watch for some giggles?

JDFP
30-Jul-2010, 02:37 AM
It has sequels! I didn't know that!:stunned:



I assure you that you ain't missin' nuthin'.

j.p.

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 02:37 AM
It has sequels! I didn't know that!:stunned:



Two sequels and two recent prequels, if i'm not mistaken.

Doc
30-Jul-2010, 02:43 AM
So, I'm assume they all must suck major balls since, I've never heard of them before? That, or I gotta start paying more attention. :confused:

rongravy
30-Jul-2010, 03:52 AM
Yeah, I'd agree on Texas Chainsaw except I'd delete them after the second one, which is the best.
I'm going with Hellraiser after the second one. The third was still decent, but after that they just screwed the pooch with the whole thing.
I heard whoever is remaking Clive Barker's dream has his utmost devotion to keeping it real, and making more if they rock. All I can do is hope...
On the other hand, another movie of Clive's that didn't get the proper sequels was Nightbreed. Too bad.

ProfessorChaos
30-Jul-2010, 06:07 AM
the halloween films come to mind...however, i really like halloween 2 because it picks up on the same night exactly where the first left off (and NOtLD appearing on the televisions during the opening scenes).

as i've said before, if i had my say with the halloween remake that RZ did, i would have made it a 3 hour epic remake of the whole story of October 31st in haddonfield.

after halloween 2, though, the series went to total shit in a heartbeat, at times cheesier than most nightmare on elm street movies.

Danny
30-Jul-2010, 06:32 AM
Nightmare on elm street, let it stay dead.

clanglee
30-Jul-2010, 07:08 AM
:stunned: Man screw you guys!! The Exorcist 3 is one of my favorite movies of all time. Part 2 was an atrocity, but part 3 was wonderful. Very closely based on the book. . .and just beautifully played out by George C. Scott and Brad Douriff. Fuckin' fantasic movie!!

Ghost Of War
30-Jul-2010, 07:36 AM
A Nightmare On Elm Street. They should have just left it after the first one, instead of turning what I thought was a scary character into a parody of itself. Also, Saw. The first one was great (apart from some dodgy acting from Carey Elwes), it was something different, and I thought it was very well done. After that, bleh.

acealive1
30-Jul-2010, 10:07 AM
Nightmare on elm street, let it stay dead.





then the film would make no sense of they stopped after the first one

Doc
30-Jul-2010, 10:35 AM
the halloween films come to mind...however, i really like halloween 2 because it picks up on the same night exactly where the first left off (and NOtLD appearing on the televisions during the opening scenes).

after halloween 2, though, the series went to total shit in a heartbeat, at times cheesier than most nightmare on elm street movies.

What did you think of Halloween 4, Chaos? For a script written in 11 days, the film sure came out better than anything after it, and actually tie it with Halloween 2 for best sequel.




Nightmare on elm street, let it stay dead.

Despite, the fact I agree with you Hellsing....I have Nightmarathons every October where I watch the first four movies in a row. I'd hate to think of life on this planet without Parts 2, 3 and 4. Yeah, I admit I like the sequels! Especially, Pt. 3 and New Nightmare.

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 11:59 AM
Poltergeist. The first one is a classic in my book, but the sequels can piss off.

The Omen. None of them come close to the quality of the first. And no Gregory Peck. Booooo.

Mr.G
30-Jul-2010, 12:08 PM
the halloween films come to mind...however, i really like halloween 2 because it picks up on the same night exactly where the first left off (and NOtLD appearing on the televisions during the opening scenes).

as i've said before, if i had my say with the halloween remake that RZ did, i would have made it a 3 hour epic remake of the whole story of October 31st in haddonfield.

after halloween 2, though, the series went to total shit in a heartbeat, at times cheesier than most nightmare on elm street movies.

I really like Halloween 1,2 & 4 as their own trilogy. The third movie gets a bad rap but if it was called something else NON-Halloween...it would be a cult classic.

The 3rd exorcist movie is very underrated. I like it a lot.

ProfessorChaos
30-Jul-2010, 12:29 PM
well, doc and mr. g, i gotta admit, the 4th halloween does have a few neat moments. it's decent at best, but that's where i draw the line.

i've always kinda associated 4 with 5 since danielle harris is in both and they were made very close to one another...but if i recall, part 5 is the one with the mysterious man in black who busts michael out of prison, then they dropped off for a handful of years, then the niece was pregnant and they blamed his problems on rune symbols, then busta ryhmes was hosting an internet show, then laurie strode wasn't dead after all, then she accidentally chopped off the ambulance driver's head,....ugh...gotta stop now, about to be ill.

Mr.G
30-Jul-2010, 12:31 PM
well, doc and mr. g, i gotta admit, the 4th halloween does have a few neat moments. it's decent at best, but that's where i draw the line.

i've always kinda associated 4 with 5 since danielle harris is in both and they were made very close to one another...but if i recall, part 5 is the one with the mysterious man in black who busts michael out of prison, then they dropped off for a handful of years, then the niece was pregnant and they blamed his problems on rune symbols, then busta ryhmes was hosting an internet show, then laurie strode wasn't dead after all, then she accidentally chopped off the ambulance driver's head,....ugh...gotta stop now, about to be ill.

They clearly jumped the shark after 4. You need a freaking PHD to understand the various plotlines of Halloween 5-8. I can suspend disbelief only for so long...

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 12:51 PM
Nightmare on elm street, let it stay dead.


A Nightmare On Elm Street. They should have just left it after the first one, instead of turning what I thought was a scary character into a parody of itself.

This. Without question. They turned Freddy from a scary-as-fuck killer into a stand up comedian with third degree burns. I fail to see how that's comical or scary. This is probably one of the worst offenses I can think of as far as sequels go.


Others that need mentioning:

Saw
Poltergiest
Amityville Horror
Hellraiser
Psycho
Halloween (I do like 2 & 4, but after that - wtf happened?!)
Jaws
American Psycho
Scream
The Lost Boys (did we really need "The Tribe"? sheesh)
Texas Chainsaw (Although I'm sure some will cry for my head on a plate, I didn't even like the first one, much less the sequels after)

I could go on, but I'm sure that's enough fodder for now. :D

Mr.G
30-Jul-2010, 01:35 PM
Others that need mentioning:


Halloween (I do like 2 & 4, but after that - wtf happened?!)


What about the original?

JDFP
30-Jul-2010, 01:37 PM
Hey, all of you dissing on "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors" can kiss my athlete's foot on my toes! The best Freddy flick with the most awesome soundtrack to any 80's film...

We're the dream warriors, yeah, maybe tonight you'll be gone!

DOKKEN RULES!!!

j.p.

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 01:38 PM
What about the original?

lol, lemme rephrase that: What I meant was, Halloween didn't need sequels, although I liked 2 & 4, I just don't think they were necessary. Halloween could've stood on it's own and they could've left it at that. ;)


Hey, all of you dissing on "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors" can kiss my athlete's foot on my toes! The best Freddy flick with the most awesome soundtrack to any 80's film...

We're the dream warriors, yeah, maybe tonight you'll be gone!

DOKKEN RULES!!!

j.p.


JP - I'll admit, I love me some Dokken (Lynch was and continues to be one of my favorite guitarists ever), but the movie itself? Meh... Freddy was waaaay to much the comedian by the time Dream Warriors was released. Totally destoryed whatever evilness was left in the character. I mean, c'mon... "Welcome to prime time, bitch!"?? puh-lease. :lol:

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 02:03 PM
The Lost Boys (did we really need "The Tribe"? sheesh)


I saw the other day that they're actually working on ANOTHER. :p

Mr.G
30-Jul-2010, 02:08 PM
Hey, all of you dissing on "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors" can kiss my athlete's foot on my toes! The best Freddy flick with the most awesome soundtrack to any 80's film...

We're the dream warriors, yeah, maybe tonight you'll be gone!

DOKKEN RULES!!!

j.p.

I love ya but after the original NOES, the majority of Freddy was portrayed as doing stand up on amateur night.

JDFP
30-Jul-2010, 02:36 PM
I love ya but after the original NOES, the majority of Freddy was portrayed as doing stand up on amateur night.

Oh, I agree 100%, really. It's just a fact that I love some 80's Hair band music. You can't beat it. :)

j.p.

Purge
30-Jul-2010, 02:51 PM
Ginger Snaps. Everything that needed to be done was done in the first.

BillyRay
30-Jul-2010, 02:59 PM
I know it's not horror, but Highlander.

There should've been only one.

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 03:33 PM
I saw the other day that they're actually working on ANOTHER. :p

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh, I agree 100%, really. It's just a fact that I love some 80's Hair band music. You can't beat it. :)

80's hair bands FTW! (Can't help it, was born in '71, so I grew up on that stuff in my teen years... God help me. :lol:)

AcesandEights
30-Jul-2010, 03:42 PM
Hmmm, probably most solid horror films should not have been turned into franchises and it would be easier for me to pick out those that I think were served well by one or more sequels.

However, I agree with those who have pointed out Jaws, Nightmare on Elm Street and the Lost Boys for special onerous consideration as examples of movies that were great in their own ways but with horrible, and horribly unnecessary, sequels.

C5NOTLD
30-Jul-2010, 03:53 PM
Saw - never liked the first one and ignored the rest. :)

Hard to believe Saw has made that much.

Halloween (10 films, 1978-2009) - $367m
A Nightmare On Elm Street (nine films, 1984-2009) - $447m
Friday the 13th (12 films, 1980-2009) - $465m
Scream (three films, 1996-2000) - $507m
Saw (six films, 2004-2009) - $733m

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 03:59 PM
I thought the first Saw was great, but the other 15 can fuck off. I saw bits of 2 & 3 and never returned.

AcesandEights
30-Jul-2010, 04:01 PM
I thought the first Saw was great, but the other 15 can fuck off. I saw bits of 2 & 3 and never returned.

Yeah, I saw someone mentioned them after I posted and definitely agree. The first was well done, fun in a gritty nail-biting sort of way, but the follow ups were...:|

darth los
30-Jul-2010, 04:02 PM
Hey, all of you dissing on "A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: The Dream Warriors" can kiss my athlete's foot on my toes! The best Freddy flick with the most awesome soundtrack to any 80's film...

We're the dream warriors, yeah, maybe tonight you'll be gone!

DOKKEN RULES!!!

j.p.


Holy shit man! We agree on something. I actually revere parts 1-3.

Although the 2nd is considered the bastard stepchild of the series i like it alot precisely because it's not like the others.

Most long running franchises have one film like that.

And no mention of Friday the 13th? :confused:

So is that to say everyone thinks the sequels are hunky dory? :p

:cool:

slickwilly13
30-Jul-2010, 04:03 PM
Night of the Living Dead *'68*. Nuff said.

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 04:21 PM
Halloween (10 films, 1978-2009) - $367m
A Nightmare On Elm Street (nine films, 1984-2009) - $447m
Friday the 13th (12 films, 1980-2009) - $465m
Scream (three films, 1996-2000) - $507m
Saw (six films, 2004-2009) - $733m

It makes me sick that Saw, that shitty torture-porn crap-fest, as made more money than the others on that list.

Unreal...

I find it interesting that Scream has less films than the others and is 2nd in line as far as $... wow.



And no mention of Friday the 13th? :confused:

So is that to say everyone thinks the sequels are hunky dory? :p

I liked Parts 1-3, am 50/50 on part 4, and the rest were complete utter wastes of time. :lol:

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 04:28 PM
Night of the Living Dead *'68*. Nuff said.

There was a sequel? :confused:

JDFP
30-Jul-2010, 04:32 PM
Night of the Living Dead *'68*. Nuff said.

Eh, I liked "Return of the Living Dead 1+2" as sequels.

("Return 2" even more than "Return 1").

"Return 3" is worth watching too after a 12-pack.

The rest are absolute garbage though.

:D:p

j.p.

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 04:36 PM
I thought the first Saw was great, but the other 15 can fuck off. I saw bits of 2 & 3 and never returned.

I should state that I agree with this - the first saw was indeed decent, but the rest should've never made.

bassman
30-Jul-2010, 04:59 PM
Yeah, I saw someone mentioned them after I posted and definitely agree. The first was well done, fun in a gritty nail-biting sort of way, but the follow ups were...:|

Exactly. The first was nicely packaged little thriller, but the sequels are what really gave it the "torture porn" label. Now I hear that the next installment is 3D. "This time the traps come to life!":rolleyes:

JDFP
30-Jul-2010, 05:13 PM
I liked Parts 1-3, am 50/50 on part 4, and the rest were complete utter wastes of time. :lol:

No way, Lou! Part 7 was the best: "Jason Vs. Carrie". :)

Okay, okay... maybe it's not a "great" film -- but it sure is fun. I always get a kick out of it. Jason actually met his match when he started messing with a chic with ESP/telekinesis on the rag. It should be a warning to all men everywhere. :elol:

j.p.

Trin
30-Jul-2010, 05:23 PM
Tremors 2, 3, 4
Vampires: Los Muertes (the one with Bon Jovi)

AcesandEights
30-Jul-2010, 05:48 PM
Vampires: Los Muertes (the one with Bon Jovi)

Was it that much worse than the original, Padre?

http://www.jeffcarneyfilms.com/images/vampsjamescostume.jpg

MinionZombie
30-Jul-2010, 06:43 PM
I'll respond to some people's responses...*ahem*

1) Tremors 2 through 4?! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!

Tremors 2 kicks ass. The first is the best, natch, but Tremors 2 is a hella fun ride with new stuff added into the mix, and a hell of an awesome chunk of Burt Gummer.

Tremors 3 is, unfortunately, too low budget. You can really tell they had barely any time to film it, and not being on film didn't help, plus low grade CGI ... but, again, the Burt Gummer stuff is awesome fun.

Tremors 4 ... I hated it originally, then years later (this year) I re-watched it, and it's a beautifully shot movie, with good acting and actors, and a budget worthy of the project. Truthfully the movie has little point, it's just Tremors 1 all over again, but a century earlier and doesn't really bring anything new to the table ... and we're cheated out of Burt Gummer action ... but on it's own, it's a good flick.

...

2) Saw 2 through 6 (and 7 comes out in October ... in 3D)

I love the original movie - it's a great indie flick, and was a breath of fresh air to the genre ... it's just a shame it has become a literal killing machine.

Saw 2 was okay, but kinda iffy ... the stuff that played on the first movie was good though. Saw 3 was better than #2, and again the stuff that brought the first two movies all together was good - and really it should have ended on 3.

Saw 4 was pish. Saw 5 was also pish - a load of swooshily edited nonsense that's utterly indecipheral.

Saw 6 - I've still not seen it, but I will when it shows on Sky Movies, likewise for Saw 7 (which is - apparently - going to be the last one :eek:).

...

3) Friday 13th 2 through 10

Part 2 kicks ass, Part 3 is a tad iffy but has many awesome parts, and Part 4 is the best of the sequels (no idea how Lou can be 50/50 on it ... are you high, dude?!)

Part 5 was rubbish ... but there were two fitties in it, so that's something. :lol: Part 6 was a hell of a lot of fun, Part 7 was a bit iffy - and unmercifully censored and softened down - but Jason rocks balls throughout the entire flick and it's the best Jason on screen in my opinion.

Part 8, again, unmercifully censored and softened, but Jason is still awesome strutting around that boat - and then the final act being in New York kicks ass ... plus "The Darkest Side of the Night" is an awesome track.

Part 9 was crap. Hated it when I first saw it, still hate it now.

Part 10 - loved it when I first saw it, but now it's too campy ... even if it is an interesting take on the franchise ... but yeah, too campy all-said-and-done. Waaaay too campy.

...

4) Halloween 2 through 8

Part 2 was cool, not up to the first flick's standard, but it was a good companion piece alright. Part 3 is actually a ruddy good 80s flick on its own terms. Part 4 and 5 were ruddy crap and the mask was worse, Part 6 was retarded.

Part 7 was at least interesting plot wise, but even still it was a Scream clone and was too trendy for its own good. Part 8 was nothing but franchise rape. Ghastly.

Trin
30-Jul-2010, 07:20 PM
Was it that much worse than the original, Padre?

I.. uh... sorta liked... umm... Vampires. *hangs head*

Mr.G
30-Jul-2010, 07:35 PM
I.. uh... sorta liked... umm... Vampires. *hangs head*

Uh....I'll hang my head too. Good popcorn/beer flick.

acealive1
30-Jul-2010, 07:48 PM
nightmare 1 and 2 were blood baths plain and simple. but they knew they had to keep reinventing him otherwise another dead guy killing kids would get old fast.



3 woke the franchise up and saved it. 4 kept it going, then they had the dream child and new nightmare which looked low budget as hell. then they returned to form with freddy's dead.

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 08:01 PM
No way, Lou! Part 7 was the best: "Jason Vs. Carrie". :)

Fun after a case of beer, perhaps, but still not as good as the first 4. :lol:


Part 4 is the best of the sequels (no idea how Lou can be 50/50 on it ... are you high, dude?!)

Why, as a matter of fact...... :shifty: :lol:

I dunno, I mean, I liked some of it, but then again, after seeing the three previous to it, the whole continuous sequels started to wear thin. Ok, I'll say I'm 60/40 like/dislike on Fri13th Part 4. that's as much as you're getting out of me. :lol: Remember too, dude, I'm a bit older than you, so the first three held a bit more of a special place for me. ;)



I.. uh... sorta liked... umm... Vampires. *hangs head*

*raises hand sheepishly* Me too... :shifty:

I just thought casting James Woods - of all people - as the lead role was a great choice. I don't know why, but I just thought it was perfect. :D

AcesandEights
30-Jul-2010, 08:14 PM
I.. uh... sorta liked... umm... Vampires. *hangs head*


Uh....I'll hang my head too. Good popcorn/beer flick.




*raises hand sheepishly* Me too... :shifty:

Well, don't feel too bad guys. It wasn't unwatchable, per se. I sat through it a few times myself.


I just thought casting James Woods - of all people - as the lead role was a great choice. I don't know why, but I just thought it was perfect. :D

James Woods...Lead Role...Perfect?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_gZEKCBxNWlY/SrhPxgDrxSI/AAAAAAAAAr8/NjiG7SauBXs/s400/scanners+head+explosion.jpg


Just kidding...Woods has charisma, but the hamminess he used in that role didn't contrast too well, for me anyway, with the rest of the film. Before you all jump on one little part of my previous sentence, I'm not saying JC's Vampires wasn't hammy, but there's a difference between funny/cool cheesiness that's done on purpose and hammy acting that is mailed in for an unremarkable 'horror' movie.

LouCipherr
30-Jul-2010, 08:18 PM
James Woods...Lead Role...Perfect?


I think it was just the fact that it was just so out of character for him to be in a movie like this. It almost seemed like improper casting, but once you get into the movie, I do love the hamminess of his acting in it. I dunno what to say other than...

...I have shamed myself. :o :lol:

AcesandEights
30-Jul-2010, 08:21 PM
...I have shamed myself. :o :lol:

Nah, I think a lot of people probably dig it. Given enough time it might take on some cheesy mystique for me, as well.

*Looks at watch*

Well, I'll give it a few more years, anyway. :)

Doc
30-Jul-2010, 08:58 PM
.
Hellraiser


What? No love for Hellbound: Hellraiser 2? It's a pretty rare sequel. It not only expands on the mythology, but keeps the exact some atmosphere of the original. What's not too love?




Meh... Freddy was waaaay to much the comedian by the time Dream Warriors was released.


Freddy started wisecracking in Dream Warriors, but what helps is that not only is there a purpose for his jokes, but there's still a viciousness behind them. All of his lines in Dream Master seemed like they were written with the intent of becoming catchphrases to be slapped on merchandise, or to be taglines or the hook of the trailer.

I admit I still like Pt. 4 though. :shifty:



Saw - never liked the first one and ignored the rest. :)

Hard to believe Saw has made that much.

Halloween (10 films, 1978-2009) - $367m
A Nightmare On Elm Street (nine films, 1984-2009) - $447m
Friday the 13th (12 films, 1980-2009) - $465m
Scream (three films, 1996-2000) - $507m
Saw (six films, 2004-2009) - $733m




That's only because Tickets today cost more!:rant:




3 woke the franchise up and saved it. 4 kept it going, then they had the dream child and new nightmare which looked low budget as hell. then they returned to form with freddy's dead.

Wait what? Freddy's Dead return it to form? Are we talking about the same Freddy's Dead where Freddy rides a broom, plays a NES, has a daughter (a fine-ass daughter though), and has those dumb dream demons?

New Nightmare low budget? It had the biggest budget of all them films! Besides, FvJ if you want to count it as, a Nightamre film. Also New Nightmare beats the crap outta everything after, Dream Warriors!

Trin
30-Jul-2010, 09:29 PM
I think it was just the fact that it was just so out of character for him to be in a movie like this. It almost seemed like improper casting, but once you get into the movie, I do love the hamminess of his acting in it. I dunno what to say other than...

...I have shamed myself. :o :lol:I really dug James Woods in Vampires. I thought he acted it pretty well. Broody, hard-assed, jaded, but ass-kicker, etc.

I also thought the movie had some neat little stuff going on. The church endorsing slayers. The vamps hiding underground just wherever. The whole "greater plot" aspect of the vamps.

I dunno, I just kinda liked it. And it had the B-movie Baldwin in it, which is a total horror win.

C5NOTLD
01-Aug-2010, 03:37 AM
I really dug James Woods in Vampires. I thought he acted it pretty well. Broody, hard-assed, jaded, but ass-kicker, etc.

I also thought the movie had some neat little stuff going on. The church endorsing slayers. The vamps hiding underground just wherever. The whole "greater plot" aspect of the vamps.

I dunno, I just kinda liked it. And it had the B-movie Baldwin in it, which is a total horror win.

I agree - Woods was cool in that film and had some great lines only Woods could deliver that way. :lol: Nice western vibe to that film. Good soundtrack by Carpenter. Sheryl Lee was great as Katrina and easy on the eyes.

You might enjoying seeing these out of my collection - Woods' Jack Crow complete costume (last used on the cross) and Lee's Katrina Bloody Costume that she was wearing after biting Montonya in the jeep and walking away.


http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/USCJC/KAT1WIDE.jpg

LouCipherr
01-Aug-2010, 10:26 PM
You might enjoying seeing these out of my collection - Woods' Jack Crow complete costume (last used on the cross) and Lee's Katrina Bloody Costume that she was wearing after biting Montonya in the jeep and walking away.

:stunned: AWESOME!

krakenslayer
01-Aug-2010, 11:27 PM
3 woke the franchise up and saved it. 4 kept it going, then they had the dream child and new nightmare which looked low budget as hell. then they returned to form with freddy's dead.

I'm pretty sure New Nightmare was after Freddy's Dead... wasn't it?

JDFP
02-Aug-2010, 12:58 AM
Eh, in defense of Freddy (after all, he only got off because the dumb ass cop apparently forgot to properly read his Miranda rights -- so says the first and not too shabby episode of "Freddy's Nightmares" TV series)...

I thought "A New Nightmare" was fantastic -- better than even the original "A Nightmare on Elm Street" -- in that it presented something fresh (this was pre-the comedy film "Scream" mind you) that hadn't really been attempted in a horror film before, and I have to give kudos on that along with them doing something really original at the time.

Shame "originality" has been removed from the equation of Hollywood film-making these days.

j.p.

acealive1
02-Aug-2010, 01:51 AM
I'm pretty sure New Nightmare was after Freddy's Dead... wasn't it?






eh sorry bout that. u know what i mean.

C5NOTLD
02-Aug-2010, 04:11 AM
I'm pretty sure New Nightmare was after Freddy's Dead... wasn't it?


Yes it was and New Nightmare was pretty good.



.

bassman
02-Aug-2010, 12:02 PM
Has the Alien series been mentioned? Not that I would want it to end after Scott's original film, but rather after the third film in the series. Although Alien 3 originally had it's problems, I now love it as part of a trilogy. A fitting end to the series.

Then Resurrection came along. THAT is a sequel that should have never happened...

darth los
02-Aug-2010, 01:35 PM
I liked Parts 1-3, am 50/50 on part 4, and the rest were complete utter wastes of time. :lol:

Actually my fav films of that franchise are Jason X and Freddy vs. Jason.

That should say all we need to know about the quality of that series. :lol:

:cool:

Trin
02-Aug-2010, 01:56 PM
Has the Alien series been mentioned? Not that I would want it to end after Scott's original film, but rather after the third film in the series. Although Alien 3 originally had it's problems, I now love it as part of a trilogy. A fitting end to the series.

Then Resurrection came along. THAT is a sequel that should have never happened...
Alien is certainly fodder if we throw out the immediate sequel. I have never comes to terms with Alien 3, but it's not bad enough to throw the baby out with the bathwater. Anything after that is seriously, "Why???!!"

I am also one of those that has difficulty classifying Alien and especially Aliens as horror. They wind up as sci-fi/suspense/thriller to me. I don't disagree if someone says they're horror, but I think it's tenuous at best. You could make the same argument on Event Horizon and several others. At some point you're asking if Lost in Space (Matt Le Blanc travesty) falls into horror as well.

bassman
02-Aug-2010, 02:13 PM
I am also one of those that has difficulty classifying Alien and especially Aliens as horror. They wind up as sci-fi/suspense/thriller to me. I don't disagree if someone says they're horror, but I think it's tenuous at best.

I think the first film can be classified as a horror first and a thriller second. The second film, Aliens is an action movie at it's core. There are still a few horror-ish moments, but the overall experience is an action film. Alien 3 then takes it back to horror in that sort of despair and isolation. The theatrical cut of 3 isn't so great, but the Assembly cut really comes close to what could have been. Great trilogy. Then Resurrection just fucks it all up for no good reason other than money....

JDFP
02-Aug-2010, 03:05 PM
The fourth "Aliens" flick at least had my future girlfriend Winona Ryder in it... so it wasn't a complete loss.

Anything with my girl Winona in it automatically gets a thumbs up (and that's not the only thing) from me. :D

Otherwise, it completely sucked. I can't think of anything else redeeming about the fourth Aliens flick -- watching it right after the first 3 flicks is like a "huh?" moment.

j.p.

SymphonicX
02-Aug-2010, 03:10 PM
Answer to original question: none of them, unless its part of a trilogy.

darth los
02-Aug-2010, 03:24 PM
Answer to original question: none of them, unless its part of a trilogy.

That would be most of them then. :lol:

I can't think of many that stopped at 3.

:cool:

BillyRay
02-Aug-2010, 05:04 PM
Alien 4 - written by Joss Wheadon, Directed by Jean Pierre Juenet.

By all clues, it should have worked.

Except that it didn't.

I've always smelled the corrupting stench of Studio Executive Groupthink.

"We have notes!"

bassman
02-Aug-2010, 05:06 PM
I've always smelled the corrupting stench of Studio Executive Groupthink.

"We have notes!"

Let's not forget Weaver's contract agreements. She had to have sex with an alien, and there had to be a alien/human hybrid.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wo-u0C-qqD4/SaMwJIYgeaI/AAAAAAAAAS4/LjX1vYX51RQ/s400/ww-bitch-please.gif

darth los
02-Aug-2010, 05:15 PM
Alien 4 - written by Joss Wheadon

really? He wrote that crap?

I guess he ain't shit without Sarah Michelle Gellar. :p

:cool:

slickwilly13
02-Aug-2010, 05:16 PM
There was a sequel? :confused:

Actually, it was a troll attempt to rip on Dawn and Day, but no one noticed.

bassman
02-Aug-2010, 05:20 PM
really? He wrote that crap?


Exactly why I want to know how he convinced Marvel to trust him with their holy grail, The Avengers. He's directed one film and they're trusting him with their biggest franchise?:confused:

JDFP
02-Aug-2010, 05:30 PM
Actually, it was a troll attempt to rip on Dawn and Day, but no one noticed.

Who attempted to rip on "Dawn" and/or "Day" and who 'trolled' exactly?

j.p.

slickwilly13
02-Aug-2010, 05:41 PM
I did when I jokingly typed no sequels after Night ' 68. Even though I am fond of the original trilogy.

MinionZombie
02-Aug-2010, 05:45 PM
Actually my fav films of that franchise are Jason X and Freddy vs. Jason.

That should say all we need to know about the quality of that series. :lol:

:cool:
Or your bizarre fucking mind ... have you been drinkin' drugs? :stunned:

Tricky
02-Aug-2010, 05:50 PM
I really dug James Woods in Vampires. I thought he acted it pretty well. Broody, hard-assed, jaded, but ass-kicker, etc.

I also thought the movie had some neat little stuff going on. The church endorsing slayers. The vamps hiding underground just wherever. The whole "greater plot" aspect of the vamps.

I dunno, I just kinda liked it. And it had the B-movie Baldwin in it, which is a total horror win.

I like that film as well, it could almost be happening in the same universe as "from dusk til dawn" too with the general look/feel of it, if you look it up anywhere on the net it gets bad reviews, but I enjoyed it!

darth los
02-Aug-2010, 05:56 PM
Or your bizarre fucking mind ... have you been drinkin' drugs? :stunned:

Is it that obvious? :p

Seriously though, we all have guilty pleasures when it comes to movies. I think there was a thread on that a while back.

Those just happen to be mine.

:cool:

JDFP
02-Aug-2010, 06:40 PM
I did when I jokingly typed no sequels after Night ' 68. Even though I am fond of the original trilogy.

Gotcha. I was confused scratching my head like: "Huh?" for a second...

but that regularly happens, so no big deal there. :)

j.p.

DubiousComforts
05-Aug-2010, 08:31 AM
Night of the Living Dead *'68*. Nuff said.
I agree 100% and so apparently did George Romero. He lasted nearly 10 years prior to being sucked back in.

Also add Phantasm to the short list. Like Romero, Coscarelli lasted nearly 10 years prior to being sucked back in.

Mr.G
05-Aug-2010, 12:36 PM
I agree 100% and so apparently did George Romero. He lasted nearly 10 years prior to being sucked back in.

Also add Phantasm to the short list. Like Romero, Coscarelli lasted nearly 10 years prior to being sucked back in.

I'd say I enjoyed Phantasm 2 more than the original.

bassman
05-Aug-2010, 01:00 PM
I'd say I enjoyed Phantasm 2 more than the original.

Bubba Ho-Tep trumps them all! :elol:

Mr.G
05-Aug-2010, 02:07 PM
Bubba Ho-Tep trumps them all! :elol:

I wanted to like that movie and love most of Bruce's work but I couldn't get into it. The idea of nursing home horror is untapped but I'm not sure if it worked. :D

darth los
05-Aug-2010, 02:08 PM
Bubba Ho-Tep trumps them all! :elol:

Anything with the word Ho in it gets my vote dude. :thumbsup:

:cool:

Trin
05-Aug-2010, 02:48 PM
I wanted to like that movie and love most of Bruce's work but I couldn't get into it. The idea of nursing home horror is untapped but I'm not sure if it worked. :D

I loved Bubba Ho-tep. I could list a shit-ton of reasons why it's a killer good movie. It is so much more than a typical Bruce movie. And I'm not thinking with sand here either.

Don't make me use my stuff on ya baby.

bassman
05-Aug-2010, 03:08 PM
There are more quotable lines in that film than any other I can think of.

Speaking of Ho-Tep, there's a chance it may fit in with the topic of this thread. Bubba Nosferatu is supposedly going to film soon. But this time Ron Perlman is filling the shoes of Elvis/Haff. Think it will turn out to be one of these franchises that didn't need a sequel?

DubiousComforts
05-Aug-2010, 04:23 PM
I'd say I enjoyed Phantasm 2 more than the original.
Now why'd you have to go an' start trouble?

Trin
05-Aug-2010, 05:07 PM
There are more quotable lines in that film than any other I can think of.

Speaking of Ho-Tep, there's a chance it may fit in with the topic of this thread. Bubba Nosferatu is supposedly going to film soon. But this time Ron Perlman is filling the shoes of Elvis/Haff. Think it will turn out to be one of these franchises that didn't need a sequel?
I heard from a friend who does the geekdom tour circuit and caught Bruce live at one of the events that the Bubba Ho-tep sequel was a joke played on the fans. But I don't discount the possibility that his saying it was a joke was in fact the real joke on my buddy. Or that my buddy was playing a joke on me by saying it was said. Or saying it was said as a joke. On me. So, long story short, I'm adding no information at all except to say that I'll believe Bubba Nosferatu when it shows in my local theater.

The movie is incredibly quotable. I'm not sure if it's Holy Grail quotable, but it sure has some good ones. Where it shines is that the quotes are so close to making sense, but don't, and absolutely no one gets them.

DubiousComforts
05-Aug-2010, 05:55 PM
I heard from a friend who does the geekdom tour circuit and caught Bruce live at one of the events that the Bubba Ho-tep sequel was a joke played on the fans.
Quiet, you fool! You're going to give away Romero's reason for Diary and Survival.

Doc
20-Aug-2010, 09:02 PM
Speaking about horror films that didn't need sequles Hellraiser is getting another one.

http://shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16239

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/21364


:annoyed: Anothe DTV sequel?

Mr.G
21-Aug-2010, 02:23 AM
Speaking about horror films that didn't need sequles Hellraiser is getting another one.

http://shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=16239

http://www.bloody-disgusting.com/news/21364


:annoyed: Anothe DTV sequel?

Ugh...a great edition to the list.

acealive1
25-Sep-2010, 03:06 AM
Nightmare on elm street, let it stay dead.

as long as it makes $$$ they'll keep cranking em out