Sequel to Batman Begins

[Maitreya]

Oooh, just saw this on IMDB. Judging from the awsomeness of its predecessor I'm hoping this one will shape up to be just as good. Albeit their choice on the Joker seems a little strange hopefully they can pull it off.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0468569/

[Adrenochrome]

Batman Mountain?

[Maitreya]

I was thinking more along the lines of Brokeback Begins...

But he might be able to pull it off, who knows?

[zombie04]

I don't mind the choice for the Joker, I just don't like the fact that Christopher Nolan and David Goyer aren't writing the actual screenplay for this one.

[bassman]

From what I've heard, Christopher Nolan and David Goyer are writing the story, while Jonathan Nolan(Christopher's brother) is writing the screenplay. If this is true.....I have complete faith. Ever seen "Momento"? That will help you change your mind.;)

I have faith in Ledger as the Joker, too. I'm not going to go into all of it again, but just look at the other thread about this for alot of good points from people about Ledger.

As far as the film's title.....I hope they stick with what they're calling it now: "The Dark Knight". Cooooool.:thumbsup:

[bassman]

I just read that filming for "The Dark Knight" has started filming in Chicago. There are some pictures HERE (http://www.superherohype.com/news.php?id=5515) and HERE (http://deadlinepublishing.typepad.com/fighting_the_suburbs/2007/04/batman_is_back_.html).

They're not much, just a picture of Gotham City Bank that is apparently robbed by the joker after he drives a school bus through it. :) I'm just excited that Nolan, Bale, and the whole shebang are back for what I'm sure will be an awesome flick.

And hopefully we'll get a good picture of Ledger as the Joker pretty soon.

The comic/nerd in me is screaming.:D

[Tied2thetracks]

Batman deserves a little respect. Once you kiss a boy you are gay, You can't erase it. The Joker is not a sensetive homosexual. A bad ass superhero movie needs bad ass MEN.

I would though strongly consider Heath for a sequel to Philadelphia. But only if they use real AIDS.

[bassman]

*sigh*

He's an actor. That's what he does. He acts characters out. It does not make him a f*cking homosexual.

It would be one thing to say that you don't think he's a good choice because you don't like his acting. But to say it's a bad choice because he played a gay man(in a very good movie, I might add) is just f*cking ridiculous. Try opening your mind a little.:rolleyes:

[Danny]

aye indeed.

one thign that bugs me is how this guy must be brikkin' himself, hes got jacknicklesons joker to live up to, that must be a lot of pressure for an actor.

[coma]

Batman deserves a little respect. Once you kiss a boy you are gay, You can't erase it. The Joker is not a sensetive homosexual. A bad ass superhero movie needs bad ass MEN.

I would though strongly consider Heath for a sequel to Philadelphia. But only if they use real AIDS.
A little misdirection perhaps?


aye indeed.

one thign that bugs me is how this guy must be brikkin' himself, hes got jacknicklesons joker to live up to, that must be a lot of pressure for an actor.Burtons Batman Sucked. Nicholson was there for a paycheck and The guy who played Webster would make a better joker than Jack.
Batman begins made it easier to forget those crap movies exist.

[capncnut]

Burtons Batman Sucked. Nicholson was there for a paycheck and The guy who played Webster would make a better joker than Jack.

Batman begins made it easier to forget those crap movies exist.
Damn straight and there's only one Joker in my book, Caesar motherf**kin' Romero! :thumbsup:

[Tied2thetracks]

*sigh*

He's an actor. That's what he does. He acts characters out. It does not make him a f*cking homosexual.

It would be one thing to say that you don't think he's a good choice because you don't like his acting. But to say it's a bad choice because he played a gay man(in a very good movie, I might add) is just f*cking ridiculous. Try opening your mind a little.:rolleyes:

I really don't give a damn, I just wanted to use that AIDs line.

[Danny]

Damn straight and there's only one Joker in my book, Caesar motherf**kin' Romero! :thumbsup:

the 60's joker?, that was possibly the gayest straight man ever.:lol:
i think he was too comedic, wereas nicklesons joker got the right balance between clown and dark pysocitic, true the dude who played batman sucked but i think nicleson did a great job with it 'specially since he had to put up with that dick tim burton.

yes. i said it, and im not taking it back, no matter how many emo kids post about it on myspace:lol:

[bassman]

I still like Tim Burton's original. True, it's not as good as "Batman Begins" because it has more of a fantastical element, but I don't think i'll ever really hate it.

As for the Joker. I like pretty much all of them. Including Ceasar Romero, Jack Nicholson, Mark Hamill(cartoon series), etc, etc. To me...it's all good fun and they all take it their own direction. It's one character played by different people, so obviously there will be differences but I actually enjoy the differences in them all.

I'm really anxious to see how Ledger does with Nolan's real and dark style. I've actually read(keep in mind....it's not official at this point) that the Joker in "The Dark Knight" isn't going to have his traditional lipstick, green hair, etc. I've heard that he'll be more of grey tint with a torn up suit and not have a constant smile on his face.

Interesting, I would say. First I want to see his look. And Warner Bros. has already said that they don't want alot of fugazi pictures on the net so they'll release a picture ASAP. After I see what he looks like....I'll be dying to see him play the part. I think i'm the only person on this board that has faith in him at this point. Actually, I would say the faith rests more in Christopher Nolan's hands. The dude can't go wrong by me.

[CornishCorpse]

Heath Ledger? Heather fudging ledger? Dear god. I like his acting and I think he seems like a decent guy but for the joker you need someone pyschotic..Someone who has insanity between the ears rather than muscle. I cant see this working.

Christian Bale goes back to machinist looks then he could pull it off but somehow I dont think he would be allowed two rules, nevermind should ask his brother.

Just the image of a muscley joker just doesnt sound good. Yes he could get rid of the muscle but its just blah..I think the film is worth a ticket but dear god..Heh they should get hugh grant and use another guys voice to do the joker. Preferably the guy who did the batman of the future movie.. return of the joker or something.

Most likely the original guy.

Edit: Also http://bifsniff.com/images/franks-blog/heath-joker.jpg

[Danny]

dude that was mark hamil.:cool:

[bassman]

Edit: Also http://bifsniff.com/images/franks-blog/heath-joker.jpg

That is one amongst the million other fakes on the net, man. That's why WB wants to hurry up and get a real picture out before too many people start to believe all these fake ones that people do in photo shop.

[CornishCorpse]

Lol I know thats photoshopped but I was just saying thats what it could end up and everyone knows a bad villain can ruin a movie.

[bassman]

Lol I know thats photoshopped but I was just saying thats what it could end up and everyone knows a bad villain can ruin a movie.

That's not how he will end up. Nolan has already said that they're not going to duplicate Nicholson. Have faith in Nolan, man. Did "Batman Begins" not make you sport a wood? The same people are making this sequel.

Have faith, my friend. Have faith. You will see in time.

[CornishCorpse]

Alright but if it sucks I know who`s door Im going to be filling with batarangs :lol:

[bassman]

Ya know what? Go right ahead. I'm that sure of this flick. Even if it's not completely awesome(which to some it won't be because they'll be expecting "Begins" all over again) it will at least be a good, entertaining flick.

But at this point.....I'm completely psyched about this flick. I'm thinking it will be as good of a theatrical experience as "Grindhouse" is.

[Danny]

i aint that xcited but im a marvel man over dc anyday:D

[capncnut]

Nootch. :cool:

[bassman]

All your Xmen aint got sh*t on JUST Superman and Batman.:p

[Danny]

i reckon wolverine could take him, indestructable claws and he survived being metled down into a skeleton from a nuke.
plus batmans techincallys nuts (and a closet pedo:lol: ) so proffesor x could just screw with his head make him get out his kryptonite ring and punch supermans lights out and superman couldnt fight back without killing his friend.

fanboys rule:lol:

[bassman]

Superman is an alien from another planet! Nothing on this Earth can harm him unless it involves a piece of his home planet, Krypton. Your "Xmen" are from this Earth and are merely evolving. Superman is the ULTIMATE of all evolutions. He's the man of mutha f*ckin man steel, yo!:p

[coma]

fanboys rule:lol:
You dont know **** about comics. I tested you and you failed. Youre not a fanboy, just an ill informed nerd. OOOF. You thought Jack Kirby was a DC guy when he created almost every single marvel character and plenty for every other company. If you dont know Jack you dont know **** about comics. Yeah, I challenge you.:evil:

()whose the nerd now:lol:)


I agree with you 100000% Bassman. Except I think it will be better. And I dont care if an actor sucked 10000 dicks in gay porn. If he does a good job, I dont care. Except Katie Holmes Batman Begins satisfied all of my Batman needs. Even Ras Al Ghul which is not a "popular" villiain by any measure. That was a nice choice.

Give Wolverine a Pink shirt and he's Tony Manero form Saturday Night Fever. Xmen are the comics equivalent of liking top 40 radio. Its oretty much sucked since 1983.

[capncnut]

I have to admit that I do like both sides but I grew up with the old Spiderman comics and cartoons so I tend to lean over to the Marvel camp a bit more. Not only that but Stan Lee is the man! Maybe someone should set up a poll over this and end this argument for good?


i reckon wolverine could take him, indestructable claws and he survived being metled down into a skeleton from a nuke.
<swipes claws> "Schnickedy-schnickedy-schnoinch!" :lol:

[slickwilly13]

Speaking of comics. Does anyone have any Golden or Silver Age comics? I have some from the 50's. That's the earliest in my collection. My oldest Spiderman was from the mid 60's when he fought Mysterio.

[coma]

Speaking of comics. Does anyone have any Golden or Silver Age comics? I have some from the 50's. That's the earliest in my collection. My oldest Spiderman was from the mid 60's when he fought Mysterio.
Yeah. My Oldest is A Whiz comics (capt Marvel aka Shazam) from 1941. I have several Crime Does Not Pay books. Thats a Pre Comics code crime series that, with EC comics, led to the censor code. I have several other early 50s crime and horror books. The bulk of my collection is from 1965-1980. Majority are from the 70s and I ind specialize in Kirby (as if you couldnt tell:)). I have most of the priginal Kirby/ Lee run of Fantastic four and Thor as well as almost every Jim Steranko book. And all the Frank Miller Daredevils and all the Neil Aadams Batmans and Green Lanterns. As well as a really sizable collection of Underground and Alternative comics starting from 1967 until now.
I like Late Golden Age alot, but they are too much money. Plus I got a lot of silver age stuff as a young kid cause I could never afford them now.

I have no preference of any company, only good books vs Bad. And Stan Lee gets way more credit than he deserves (Which he encourages). Most of that should go to Kirby and Ditko.:mad:

[DeadJonas190]

Batman deserves a little respect. Once you kiss a boy you are gay, You can't erase it. The Joker is not a sensetive homosexual. A bad ass superhero movie needs bad ass MEN.

I would though strongly consider Heath for a sequel to Philadelphia. But only if they use real AIDS.

Wow, somebody is a homophobe.

Kissing a guy does not make you gay, it was a part in a movie, it's called acting. Sure, it was pretty disgusting, but enough with your hate all the time please.


Besides almost everywhere but here in America a kiss is a greeting.

Anyway, on to Batman. I have faith that Nolan will make this as good as Batman Begins, I have not seen one of his films that was not good and I don't think this one will break the status quo.





one thign that bugs me is how this guy must be brikkin' himself, hes got jacknicklesons joker to live up to, that must be a lot of pressure for an actor.

See, I liked Nicholson as Joker, but he wasn't the Joker, he was Jack Nicholson dressed as the Joker. I think Heath Ledger will do a good job, he is a good actor. Watch Candy and see what I mean.

[Danny]

I have to admit that I do like both sides but I grew up with the old Spiderman comics and cartoons so I tend to lean over to the Marvel camp a bit more. Not only that but Stan Lee is the man! Maybe someone should set up a poll over this and end this argument for good?


<swipes claws> "Schnickedy-schnickedy-schnoinch!" :lol:


"now see ,what hes doing there is imtating wolverines berzerker attack with his adamantium claws":lol:

[DeadJonas190]

Superman is an alien from another planet! Nothing on this Earth can harm him unless it involves a piece of his home planet, Krypton. Your "Xmen" are from this Earth and are merely evolving. Superman is the ULTIMATE of all evolutions. He's the man of mutha f*ckin man steel, yo!:p

Actually Dr. Strange could wipe the floor with Supes for the simple fact that Superman is not immune to magic.

The Beyonder could just rearrange his molecules into slop and that would be the end of it.


He is also not as unstoppable as you think as his powers rely on the yellow sun. Supes cloud be taken out quite easliy if the proper blend of heroes were together. One such group could be the following: Cloak could teleport him to an area of Earth that is dark while Marvel characters such as Juggarnaut, Colossus, The Hulk, The Thing and others bash him around and keep him out of the yellow sun. Bring in Wolverine when he is weakened by the big guns and Wolvie could really carve that S into his chest to finish him.

Oh, last I checked Rogue of the X-Men can steal somebodys power by mere touch. Superman would be at a disadvantage not knowing who she is since he is from another universe and Rogue could merely put herself in harms way so Supes would save her (that is if she knew who he was), as he will always save the innocent even in the midst of battle. His empathy for others is a great weakness to him although it is also one of his greatest virtues. Rogue could then just give him a single touch and steal all his powers until he died, not that she would do such a thing unless absolutly necessary.

So in other words, a single member of the X-Men team, whom also happens to be a woman, could bring down Superman with a single touch. How do you respond to that?

Also, I am sure Supermans powers would hold nothing in comparison to The Power Cosmic so any of the Heralds of Galactus could probably wipe the floor with him. Same with the current incarnation of Nova, he holds the entire Nova force within him and is an extremely powerful and nearly unstoppable being.

Oh, I love the Man of Steel, I just like to bring up things that show he isn't the ultimate uber being like people try to make him out to be. Besides, we all know that Superman would realize who the heroes and villains were quickly and fight for truth and justice, he is a hero after all and a very smart one at that.

At the same time, I like the idea of Professor X mind controling Batman to use his kryptonite ring to defeat Supes. That was a good idea Helsing, but it seems straight out of the Superman/Batman comics when the aliens did it a couple issues back.

[Cody]

no :(

[bassman]

....getting away from the nerdish arguing of who the better super hero is, there is now a picture of Ledger as The Joker on the net. It's not the "Official" release picture from Warner Brothers, but what appears to be a make up test. It is, however, definitely Heath Ledger in make up as opposed to the countless photoshops floating around.

HERE IT IS (http://joblo.com/first-joker-pic)

Whether or not this is what the final product will look like, I dunno. But as you can tell, they're definitely going with a darker look and not so much the bright, white, red, and green face that we all know.

Now I want to see the official picture of him in character.

[Danny]

oh great, its the ****ing crow:rolleyes:

[bassman]

oh great, its the ****ing crow:rolleyes:

I kinda thought that too. But I do like the idea of his "permanent smile" being scars like that. I like the look.....I just want to see Ledger's "psycho face" when he's in character rather than a makeup test photo. Hopefully they'll release the official one in the next few days like rumored.

[coma]

Thanks for the pic Bassman. I think they are going in the right direction. Its just an early test, so it will definately see improvement. I always thought of the Joker more as a wacked out, greasy, creepy degenerate rather than a gigling cartoonl. He's supposed to be shocking looking. but thats more in his facial expression and behavior. The JAck Joker was wierd looking but not scary at all and his smile was very unnatural looking.
The new Joker just needs crazy eyes and an innapropriate big ass grin to make it work and thats acting.

[bassman]

Son of a bitch....

People are too good at this photoshop thing. Apparently, the guy that created that photo in photoshop has come forward just to take credit for his nerdish skills with a computer.

It's a fake. But a damn good one, I would say. It's taken from parts of a picture of Orlando Bloom's makeup tests for "LOTR" and Heath Ledger. Here's how the f*cker did it. (http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=5558)

Man....the wait for an official picture continues.....

[bassman]

So Warner Brothers apparently has some tricks up their sleeves for the marketing of "The Dark Knight". Just last week a website called IBelieveInHarveyDent.com was released that is a mock up of a campaign ad with Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent.

Well over the weekend, comic book readers somewhere in California began finding Joker cards scattered around comic book stores that had "I Believe in Harvey Dent Too!" and "Ha Ha Ha Ha" written all over them. Turns out that there was another site(IBelieveInHarveyDentToo.com) that had a picture of Ledger as the Joker but the image was blurry and was slowly revealed over the course of about two days.

HERE (http://batman-on-film.com/batmovienews.html) is the link if you're interested in seeing the official Joker Pic. I like the direction they took the make up.....but you can't really get a feel for the Joker without his smile. I'll reserve judgment until the teaser is released.

[prettycorpses]

Apperantly Anthony Michael Hall (Dead Zone) is in it but he wont reveal who he is because it will give the story away, Im very intrigued by it all........

[bassman]

Apperantly Anthony Michael Hall (Dead Zone) is in it but he wont reveal who he is because it will give the story away, Im very intrigued by it all........

Yeah, but the man who owns Batman-on-film.com says that he has a very reliable source that says he is definitely a villian. The only thing is.....they don't know which one.

[bassman]

Damn, man. They really don't seem to be straying off too far from the core of the Joker character. This picture gave me a shiver and a burst of fanboy giggles.:p

http://i16.tinypic.com/52yjqdx.jpg

And a little side note.....if anyone's going to see "The Simpsons Movie" this coming weekend, you'll get to see this fella on the big screen.;)

[darth los]

I thought that with the rebooting of the franchise that both the heroes and villains were going to look less cartoony. I like the way they had the batsuit more mechanical and they way they made the batmobile. It just made them seem more believable to me. We've already been down this road with a number of movies that accurately portrayed the villains from the comics. It's time for a more grown up darker feel to correspond with where this new iteration of the series is going imo.

[coma]

It's time for a more grown up darker feel to correspond with where this new iteration of the series is going imo.
New? That changed in 1970 or so:eek:.
That Joker looks pretty good. It needs to be more creepy than goofy for sure

[darth los]

New? That changed in 1970 or so:eek:.
That Joker looks pretty good. It needs to be more creepy than goofy for sure

Well, i guess that's true. The old series was definitely more cartoonish than the movies from the late 80's to the mid 90's but that dosn't absolve them of their cartoonishness either. By new i meant starting with batman begins which is nuch darker and more suited to the mythology of batman imo.

[bassman]

From what i've read, Ledger is playing one sadistic mother f*cker in this film. NOTHING like Nicholson's over the top comedy or anything. There are some shots of his make up from the set on the net but I didn't want to post any spoilers or anything.

I don't see how that looks very cartoony, Darth. Purple suits exist in the real world. They're definitely not going in the kiddie, "Batman and Robin" direction. Check this out.....one of Joker's vehicles. I friggin love it.:D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/ElRezzo/Jokermobile2.jpg

[Cykotic]

Heath ledger as the Joker???

Ok, I've got nothing against the guy, he's a good actor, but why the f*** is he playing the joker??

come on people, surely there must be someone who agrees with me that someone else should have played him!!

[darth los]

From what i've read, Ledger is playing one sadistic mother f*cker in this film. NOTHING like Nicholson's over the top comedy or anything. There are some shots of his make up from the set on the net but I didn't want to post any spoilers or anything.

I don't see how that looks very cartoony, Darth. Purple suits exist in the real world. They're definitely not going in the kiddie, "Batman and Robin" direction. Check this out.....one of Joker's vehicles. I friggin love it.:D

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/ElRezzo/Jokermobile2.jpg

I think you expressed my thought better than i did. I was just saying that i hope he isn't all silly and stuff. That purple costume doesn't help strike fear into people though. But he is the joker after all.


Heath ledger as the Joker???

Ok, I've got nothing against the guy, he's a good actor, but why the f*** is he playing the joker??

come on people, surely there must be someone who agrees with me that someone else should have played him!!

I have no problem with himplaying the role. If you would have asked me if i thought christian bale could pull off batman man i would have gave you a big ol' " HELL NO!" But i would have been wrong. Who knows? We might be pleasantly suprised.

[bassman]

Hey hey...The first teaser. It's a crappy rip and there's no real footage, but we get the first sound of Ledger's Joker voice and laugh. It's only Wayne and Alfred talking, followed by Joker while lights penetrate the batman logo. The real thing will be in front of "The Simpsons" tomorrow.

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Even though it's crappy audio, what do you think of Ledger's voice? I think it's kinda cool. Like a cross between Mark Hamill's Joker in the cartoon and...well, something else that I just can't put a finger on.

July 18, 2008 just can't come quick enough....

UPDATED
Official Teaser...

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Anyone else see all the Dark Knight/Joker hoopla that was going on at the San Diego Comic Con today? Awesome, awesome marketing.

[acealive1]

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