Profanity Question

[Philly_SWAT]

I dont know how many of you saw the now closed thread that was in the "Ask the HPOTD staff" section about profanity, but in a nutshell, apparently there are some here on this board that are offended by profanity, and/or say that only "children and the uneducated" use profanity. I find these thoughts highly interesting on a site that is dedicated to a series of movies that make liberal use of profanity, and well as feature the dead rising and ripping apart the bodies of living humans to eat them.

Unless I can't find it, I don't see an option to create a poll question, so I will just ask here......how many of you are offended by profanity and a site dedicated to movies that make use of it, and how many of you are more offended by censorship of said profanity?

[Adrenochrome]

is there a rational reason why one should use offensive slang while typing in a forum? In real life people use offensive slang because they haven't found a "real" word to place in the sentence.
arguing over "why can't I cuss" is like watching school kids on the playground tell fish stories.

[Andy]

my thoughts exactly andreno..

its not that i find profanity offensive, its that i dont see why it needs to be used when typing a message on a forums and i do think it lowers the tone of any message. i like reading the forums without profanity here.

(btw when you create a new thread, the option to add poll is below where you type your message in the "Additional Options" box.)

[deadpunk]

I find censorship more offensive than I find profanity.

What annoys me more is the fact that certain members whose general standpoint has always been: If you find someone/something annoying or offensive, just ignore it this is the internet and blah, blah, blah... These are the folks that are now in full support of the filter. :| :rockbrow: :bored: :barf:

I find a myriad of things offensive, yet if we started filtering every word and/or topic that everyone felt was so, there would be little left to talk about.

But then Philly, the new forums are here, sheriff ANDY is in charge and we had all better just get used to it...and that my friends, is a direct quote. :mad:

[Adrenochrome]

I find censorship more offensive than I find profanity.

What annoys me more is the fact that certain members whose general standpoint has always been: If you find someone/something annoying or offensive, just ignore it this is the internet and blah, blah, blah... These are the folks that are now in full support of the filter. :| :rockbrow: :bored: :barf:

I find a myriad of things offensive, yet if we started filtering every word and/or topic that everyone felt was so, there would be little left to talk about.

But then Philly, the new forums are here, sheriff ANDY is in charge and we had all better just get used to it...and that my friends, is a direct quote. :mad:
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[Andy]

But then Philly, the new forums are here, sheriff ANDY is in charge and we had all better just get used to it...and that my friends, is a direct quote. :mad:

it sure is boyo and you'd better learn to adapt like everyone else has. you've already made a enemy out of me, you wanna push me in this thread too?

you'll enjoy this place alot more if you try and get on with me.

[Apocryphism]

I find it interesting that people complain about censorship on a private forum that is privately owned and administered, and for the overwhelmingly biggest portion, privately funded.

This is not an attack, just a request that those who dislike the "censorship" here consider where they are.

[Adrenochrome]

I find it interesting that people complain about censorship on a private forum that is privately owned and administered, and for the overwhelmingly biggest portion, privately funded.

This is not an attack, just a request that those who dislike the "censorship" here consider where they are.
I find it interesting that people complain because they can't cuss online.
Isn't there a Whiners Anonymous?

[Philly_SWAT]

Andy--thanks for the tip on how to create a poll. I will look for it next time.

Adrenochrome--dont know if you remember any of my threads from the old boards, or this one so far, but if you do, you will find that I rarely made use of profanity, unless it seemed appropriate to the topic at hand. If you would have carefully read this particular thread, you would see that I was not
arguing over "why can't I cuss" as you put it, but that I carefully crafted my question to be both intelligently asked and to be extra careful not to offend any "sensitivities" that members such as yourself apparently have. You also say that
In real life people use offensive slang because they haven't found a "real" word to place in the sentence I find that statement very unenlightened. Any word, by defintion, is a "real" word. If a word has an agreed upon meaning, that anyone who reads it understands what it means, then it certainly qualifies as "real". Just typing in "dkhgfu" and saying that is a word would be false, no one would know what it means. By using a well recognized cuss word, everyone knows exactly what it means, therefore it is deinfately "real". Also, are these forums not part of the "real world?" Yes they exist in cyberspace, but they are populated by real human beings typing on real computers hosted on real servers, etc.

It is always interesting to me to hear people use arguments about profanity as to use them you are "uneducated" "can't find a real word to express yourself" "limited vocabulary" etc. All of these statements are false statements. If Professor Stephen Hawking used a cuss word, would he all of sudden be ignorant, uneducated, etc? How about George Carlin? Are his comedy routines not thought provoking, smart, and designed to get someone listening to it to expand his mind and question the world around him?

You say
is there a rational reason why one should use offensive slang while typing in a forum? , well, the Klu Klux Klan would say there is no rational reason for a black man to be alive, a child molester would say there is no rational reason to consider a 5 year old off limits, a serial killer would say there is no rational reason to not kill those people. These examples are not rediculous, but in fact are true that those people would feel that way, however it does not make it right. I suggest that you should be more careful when using a "morality paintbrush" and try to not let the paint go outside the lines. You may not like to read profanity, that is your choice as a free human being. If you feel that strongly about it, I find it interesting that you would watch movies that include profanity. That is why I started this thread to begin with, that seeming inconsistentcy. You should not take a holier-than-thou attitude that because someone else's morality/value system does not coincide with yours, that somehow they are less worth than you are.

As I hope you can see, I did not use any profanity at all in this post, a fact which would be true of almost all of my posts, but I made what I consider are sound arguments, put together in a logical fashion. Why did I type all of this? Well, nothing else to do right this second. I am writing this as I watch a movie. But it really gets to me when someone uses language such as
watching school kids on the playground tell fish stories.
which is clearly designed to make the person saying it sound more important/better/etc. than others. To me, that is truly offensive, much more so than if someone uses the "F" word in proper context.

[Apocryphism]

In a different context, a heated discussion might be well warranted... but this isn't about civil liberties. This isn't an encroachment upon human rights.

It's a private message board... maybe I think of it like visiting someone else's home. I say a handful of colorful words each day, and I feel that they can have a completley appropriate place in flavoring a language. But when I am visiting someone that I know doesn't want them used, I'm not going to try to take a stand for my right to curse... I'm just going to refrain. It's a respect thing.

So, you know... peace, love, and all that good **** ;)

Sometimes its difficult (for all of us) to find a balance between individualism and respect.

And to answer the original poll (which I should have done initially), I am not personally offended by foul lanugage or individuals requesting that it not be used in their presence. I am, however, quite wary of censorship in terms of the forceful encroachment of a human being's right to peacefully express themselves (I just don't feel that such a situation applies here).

[mista_mo]

Now, I know you are all just waiting to hear my opinion on the matter (thats a joke by the way) but I really see no need for that kind of language on a forum. Now, there could be some exceptions to it, such as if the topic itself warrants such language. and about the real world...I have no problem with swearing, at all...it's when it's taken to an extreme that I just get sick of it. If the language is started out in small doses, such as the odd word here and there, eventually it could grow to be in common usage.
I personally think that people who litter their speech with cuss's are uneducated and ignorant, IF they do it all of the time. I say it to my dad all the time, I always tell him how he really must have the vocabulary of an infant if he can't think of a word to replace f**k with. and I admit, I swear, I try not too, but I do, and especially when I'm upset or agitated, I let it loose...does it mean I'm ignorant? no...i'm just in a state of mind where the only words that seem to be able to describe the situation are swears and cusses.
Personally, I don't think it's a valid arguement to say that since the dead films have foul language in them, the forum shouldn't be censored. It makes no sense. The forum is run the way the administrators want it to be run, and if they want language to be censored, It's their choice. You can all whine about it, but it won't change.
The forum also has a much more "professional" and mature feel to it if every word isn't f**k or s**t or anything like that. it makes it look more serious, and more people would get interested in it. Thats my two cents on the matter..well, i'm probibly up to like...56 cents by now..

[Adrenochrome]

do people actually type "cuss words"? WOW That's sad.

[erisi236]

how about swearing in other languages? :D

Mocca-mocca su su Ama!!! Zakennayo!!

heh heh heh :sneaky:

[mista_mo]

what does that mean...I think it means can I buy some cheese please?

[Andy]

right ive consulted neil. and the final word on the censor is this. it will remain and block out these 4 words to keep conversation civilised and you will still receive warning points for deliberatly bypassing it.

this topic is closed and will not be re-opened for discussion.

[axlish]

It seems that the no profanity is the preference of the administrators. It is ok to ask if it can be changed but at the end of the day, it is their decision, no matter how much outrage. The rules have already been written, so I would imagine that there would have to be a pretty good argument in favor of swearing in order for an admin to make the concious decision to turn off the filter. So far, I haven't heard a good argument. Sure, there is plenty of foul language in the Dead Legacy. And?