Iraq regime change

[Neil]

So the Iraq invasion for WMD, **oops sorry**, regime change (when none were found) has gone well - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-27828595 Islamist militants in Iraq have seized two new towns, widening their control after threatening to move on Baghdad. The Sunni-led Islamists advanced into Saadiya and Jalawla in Diyala province and surrounding areas as security forces abandoned their posts.

[Publius]

Disappointing. Just heard they're evacuating U.S. personnel from Balad north of Baghdad, which is where I was. It's like Saigon 1975 all over again.

[Neil]

I can see militant/extreme Islam digging its claws into Iraq for a long time now. Fooking mess!

[Publius]

I can see militant/extreme Islam digging its claws into Iraq for a long time now. Fooking mess! It can get way complicated. The Kurds up north seem to have a pretty good handle on things. But the more stable Iraqi Kurdistan gets, the more Turkey becomes nervous about its own restless Kurds. So the Iraqi Kurds are alleging that Turkey is supporting ISIS (the Iraqi rebels). Meanwhile Iran surely doesn't want to see the Iraqi Shi'ite community get slaughtered, so Iran might get involved to prop up the Shi'ite-led government (according to some reports there are already Iranian Republican Guards in Iraq). And there are all kinds of complicated implications for the civil war in Syria (ISIS is one of the main rebel groups there too, and many Iraqi Shi'ite militiamen have been fighting on the side of the Syrian government and are now returning to Iraq to fight ISIS there).

[Neil]

So let me get this right. Bush and Blair got us into Iraq because of the WMDs and/or terrorist connections (Alqaeda)! - Infact I recall seeing footage on the news of discussion prior to the invasion, showing Hussein, with footage of the twin towers in the background. Anyway, so after the invasion, it was pretty obvious there were not real WMDs, and certainly no Islamic terrorist groups (worth mentioning). But what do we have now? The country filled with an extremist Islamic group, declaring war on anyone in their way! And Blair is now currently on the news peddling more of his words of wisdom! Blair, F*** OFF! Let some people who know what the f*** they're doing any talking about handle it. If you haven't noticed I'm pretty pi$$ed off at Blair raising his head again! He should be hiding in shame at the mess he's made of Iraq.

[rongravy]

Ehhh, that place should be left as nothing more than a smoking crater. Just a bunch of assholes jockeying for position to oppress/rape/murder the rest of the population. Sad.

[Mr. Clean]

So let me get this right. Bush and Blair got us into Iraq because of the WMDs and/or terrorist connections (Alqaeda)! - Infact I recall seeing footage on the news of discussion prior to the invasion, showing Hussein, with footage of the twin towers in the background. Anyway, so after the invasion, it was pretty obvious there were not real WMDs, and certainly no Islamic terrorist groups (worth mentioning). But what do we have now? The country filled with an extremist Islamic group, declaring war on anyone in their way! And Blair is now currently on the news peddling more of his words of wisdom! Blair, F*** OFF! Let some people who know what the f*** they're doing any talking about handle it. If you haven't noticed I'm pretty pi$$ed off at Blair raising his head again! He should be hiding in shame at the mess he's made of Iraq. You don't think that the possibility exists that the WMDs were funneled up to Syria? Syria's sarin gas attacks could have came from those WMDs... Just saying...

[EvilNed]

You don't think that the possibility exists that the WMDs were funneled up to Syria? Syria's sarin gas attacks could have came from those WMDs... Just saying... How convenient, now we've got a reason to go there as well!

[Neil]

Boris Johnson: Blair should 'put a sock in it' over Iraq - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-27867265

[shootemindehead]

Johnson should STFU. He considered the invasion of Iraq a "liberation" in 2004. Bloody clown.

[Neil]

And the region (world) slips a little more back into the Medieval Ages - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28082962 Islamist militant group Isis has said it is establishing a caliphate, or Islamic state, on the territories it controls in Iraq and Syria. More mindless inhumane religion based laws. Women treated as second class human beings. And all that other great stuff extreme Islam brings to the table!!

[EvilNed]

Geez, I like to think of myself as an open-minded, socialist and leftleaning spirit... But there are some religions I dislike more than others, and this is certainly one of them. Islam, more than any other religion in this day and age, pushes people to extremes and cause more pain and suffering than the Catholic Church is currently doing.

[shootemindehead]

What did everyone think was going to happen when the one guy that had all this shit under relative control was killed? Libya's in a an absolute mess, as well since Gaddafi was whacked. And if Assad goes in Syria, you can bet your life the same disaster will happen there.

[Geordie9]

I personally think Islam is a poison of a religion with people making it up as they go along. I just don't get all this religion nonsense, i think its a load of bollocks.

[Neil]

Pat Condell - my hero - has quite strong views on Islam... Many of which I have to admit make sense...