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  1. 02-Jan-2015 #1
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    Noticed an issue with The Matrix last night

    So watched this classic film last night but noticed an obvious issue.

    Towards the end of the film, the agents are taking over people left right and center near our heros to get near them.

    At the beginning of the film however, we see the agents arriving in a car to where the police have Trinity cornered. Why didn't they just take over 3 of the police officers at the scene to get there instantly?

    My view is this would have reduce the amount of time we could see Carrie-Anne Moss' super shiney latex enveloped bum, so they didn't do it.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they take over a new body when their old one is destroyed (i.e. killed by Neo for instance).

    Oh man, i feel like rewatching that now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't they take over a new body when their old one is destroyed (i.e. killed by Neo for instance).

    Oh man, i feel like rewatching that now...
    Fair point... So the agents shoot themselves...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Fair point... So the agents shoot themselves...
    I'm pretty sure suicide is not part of their programming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I'm pretty sure suicide is not part of their programming.
    ...they shoot each other?
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    Think of the logic of them even needing to emerge through human bodies in a virtual environment.
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    I always half wished part of the way in to the second film, while in the "real world" something odd happened like a deja vu event... and they started suspecting that they hadn't really escaped the Matrix, but had simply escaped out of one version of it, into another one

    ie: A Matrix in a Matrix
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    ie: A Matrix in a Matrix
    Matriception!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    Matriception!
    With lots of BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR sounds too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    So watched this classic film last night but noticed an obvious issue.

    Towards the end of the film, the agents are taking over people left right and center near our heros to get near them.

    At the beginning of the film however, we see the agents arriving in a car to where the police have Trinity cornered. Why didn't they just take over 3 of the police officers at the scene to get there instantly?

    My view is this would have reduce the amount of time we could see Carrie-Anne Moss' super shiney latex enveloped bum, so they didn't do it.
    First off, trying to apply sense to the Matrix is a fool's endeavor.

    Second... yeah I'll do it anyway.

    I think the Matrix actually makes sense in this regard. The Matrix is a big learning computer program. At the time it was written there was no concept of someone like Trinity. And at the time Trinity was cornered the prevailing outcome of an agent pursuing a Zionite was that the Zionite is caught. The agent's program never needed that capability until the Zionites started escaping. At that point the program responded like it would to any new problem. New algorithms were written. The agents began to exhibit the new ability. The same thing happened when Neo got so out of hand fighting agents. The program realized it needed more agents and thus the ability for Agent Smith to replicate himself emerged. It was all just calculated responses to threats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trin View Post
    The same thing happened when Neo got so out of hand fighting agents. The program realized it needed more agents and thus the ability for Agent Smith to replicate himself emerged. It was all just calculated responses to threats.
    Didn't Smith's ability to convert others into Smith's emerge after he was freed from the control of the Matrix & went rogue, becoming a "virus"?
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