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    Alexander (film)

    Watched a large lump of it last night... What a total mess! Acting all over the shop! Editing all over the shop! It was diabolical at times! What happened!?!?
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    Yeah, I once watched part of it. All I care to remember are Rosario Dawson's breasts.

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    I actually like that film alot. I like it because somewhere down the line when making that film they made a decision to actually try to make a believable film, as it could have happened. There is very little "hollywoodization" in it (compared to it's peers, that is). The visuals, the props, the costumes, the scenes and even some lines of dialogue are straight from the annals of history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I actually like that film alot. I like it because somewhere down the line when making that film they made a decision to actually try to make a believable film, as it could have happened. There is very little "hollywoodization" in it (compared to it's peers, that is). The visuals, the props, the costumes, the scenes and even some lines of dialogue are straight from the annals of history.
    I found the acting and editing constantly ripped me away from believability...
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    A dreadful, dreadful film. Extremely difficult to watch.

    Woefully miscast, with accents that are...I don't even have the words.
    I'm runnin' this monkey farm now Frankenstein.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    A dreadful, dreadful film. Extremely difficult to watch.

    Woefully miscast, with accents that are...I don't even have the words.
    Then there's the sort of daft and clunky homosexual undertones too?
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    Strange, all of that you mention are things I appreciate. Which is very weird...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Strange, all of that you mention are things I appreciate. Which is very weird...
    You appreciate daft and clunky homosexual undertones? Mmmkay!
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    Yes, in a film about Alexander the Great, I do. I would've hated it if they tried making him into some athletic macho womanizer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Yes, in a film about Alexander the Great, I do. I would've hated it if they tried making him into some athletic macho womanizer.
    Understood, but it just felt clunky and unatural IMHO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Then there's the sort of daft and clunky homosexual undertones too?
    Yeh, that was kind of irritating too. There's little, if anything, to suggest that Alexander and Hephaestion were gay.
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    Well, it's a rumor that's followed him through antiquity to modern day and wouldn't exactly have been out of step with the times he lived in, so I would think leaving Alexander's sexuality as an open matter with the question alluded to subtly would be the best way to go.

    Can't speak to the movie, as it looked rotten and I haven't found a pole long enough to poke it with yet. I'm glad to hear it's not very 300 in it's approach to action, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    Yeh, that was kind of irritating too. There's little, if anything, to suggest that Alexander and Hephaestion were gay.
    Except his male lover Bagoas, of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesandEights View Post
    I'm glad to hear it's not very 300 in it's approach to action, though.
    That's like saying "Watchmen" isn't very realistic in its approach to law enforcement... 300 is a comic book approach with ultra violence/action. It's obviously not meant to be a historical account!

    But that said, I found 300 more engaging than Alexander even on the talky/character building front...
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    My point was the action was OTT and melodramatic to the nth degree in 300, as was the whole aesthetic. A film about Thermopylae could have been epic, instead we got slow mo gay porn. It was a faithfully reproduced version of the source material, but where Snyder scored with Watchmen, he failed in 300.

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