 Originally Posted by SRP76
3. Groups and individuals that perceive things in their area as "theirs" (the Flyboy mentality), and don't want to hear about the rest of the human race. As long as they have enough, everyone else can find their own supplies. Example is Wooley.
And across the board, no matter what camp or how they preach "morality", every one of these groups will simply shoot dissenters in the back of the head. Example of this is Dillinger.
And these people can not "just get along". There will be nothing but open warfare until only one group remains alive.
Incorrect. I've said what is mine is mine and I will be the one to decide what if any charity I am going to give, because I cannot help everyone. I've preached that everyone should prepare their own lifeboat in case of emergency, not just zombies, but the much more real threat of nuclear war, economic downturn, pandemic, etc. But, like Cassandra of old, myself and the others who practice preparedness see nothing but blind eyes turned towards us, with comments like "It'll never happen here", or "The government will take care of us", or any number of excuses.
Then, the situation happens, and it's too late for people to stock their own lifeboats. Happens every year in hurricane country, the shelves empty of bottled water, plywood, etc.
I can not and certainly should not be expected to prep for others who had both time and opportunity to do the same and chose otherwise.
But I realize those fools won't want to here that, and I do lack certain skill sets, materials, etc, so, let's make a deal. I pay you X amount of food, for Y skill, or Z materials. They can take it or leave it, but they get nothing for free. Welfare died with the current society. I'd probably throw in lessons in a skill or some knowledge I have but for whatever reason can't make the best use of, such as my info on how to make chloroform, a old anesthetic, or how to grow penicillin. How valuable could such info be to a small town hospital?
Or how to build a water powered grain mill, and make grain milling stones?
I've never said I don't care about the rest of the human race, just that it'd be mutual suicide to try to feed them all, and I won't do that to myself. I'll help who I can, when I can, on my terms. Sucks to be you if you don't like them, should have bought rice and beans when you could.
And I never said I'd win every gunfight with raiders, just that I'm likely to make any victory a Pyhrric one. Just because knowledge of rogue science is lacking in todays society among the brain dead majority does not mean that the knowledge to create explosives, incendiaries, poisons, and heavy weapons from easily available, non regulated sources is Hollywood fiction.
And you don't know me from Elvis, so HTF do you come off saying I'll simply slot anyone who disagrees with me? You don't, you're talking out your butt.
As far open warfare until the last man is left standing, such happens when the other groups are going to drag you into the cold dark depths. There wouldn't be a problem if Ned and Khardis and Dillinger had their own lifeboats, but they don't, the ship has sunk and they're trying to pull mine down into the cold dark depths, so I swing the oar at their heads until the ocean is still except for me. The same action that made them try to get into mine despite the fact it won't carry two much less four is the same that made me swing that oar. I get to live with that afterwards, but dying with them would have served no purpose.
I have read and own Alas Babylon and Lucifer's Hammer, which is also a good read and goes with what we've talked about, and it jives with the Saxon article on emergency governments. A permanent, and immediate anarchy is simply not going to happen. Those who act otherwise will pay for their actions, either during the emergency or after.
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