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    I have never met anyone that actually thought Predator 2 was a good movie... It is pretty much universally considered crap. Granted it had some cool additions to the mythology... Other then that it is below the avp films.
    I like Predator 2. It may not be as good as the original, but they tried something different and if you allow it, it's actually a fun movie. I think most opinions of the film have changed over the years. Much like Day. But no....it's definitely not below the AVP films.

    This article pretty much sums up my thoughts on it.
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    It was obvious foreshadowing...But to say you knew what he was and why he was there is what I call bullshit on... As far as Predator 2 goes... There is a difference between liking a film and confusing liking a movie for being a good movie... There is often a difference.

    I "like" AVP requiem but I'm not gonna sit here and defend it as being a good movie... It was pretty much garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CooperWasRight View Post
    It was obvious foreshadowing...But to say you knew what he was and why he was there is what I call bullshit on... As far as Predator 2 goes... There is a difference between liking a film and confusing liking a movie for being a good movie... There is often a difference.

    I "like" AVP requiem but I'm not gonna sit here and defend it as being a good movie... I was pretty much garbage.
    Yeah, don't really care if you believe me or not. . . . Man you must have loved Predators to get so miffed that someone else didn't like it. Good for you!! Opinions are wonderful things. . . . .
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    just got in from seeing this with a few buds. overall, i was pretty impressed. not sure if it's going to be added to the dvd collection, but i'll say that in my opinion, it is the best addition to the franchise since the original.

    only had a few gripes, here they are:

    1. it's hard for me to see topher grace as any character other than eric foreman, so he kinda felt out of place.

    2. at the end of one of the trailers, there is a predator growling/howling/screaming or whatever they do. while this film did have predators giving out war cries, none sounded like the one used in the trailer, which i believe is from the original....kinda let down by that.

    3. a little too reliant on the nods to the original film, including blasting "long tall sally" over the credits. while i appreciate that this film pays tribute to the first one, at times it felt a bit much.

    4. i love profanity as much as the next fella, but at times, it felt like this film was throwing the F-bomb around like it was going out of style. some films (the big lebowski, pulp fiction, goodfellas, casino, etc) can get away with this and you don't seem to notice, but it just felt unnecessary at times in predators.

    overall, like i said, i really liked it. the music was great, some interesting characters, adrien brody was awesome, and the final showdown was intense. definitely worth checking out of you are a fan of the original.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorChaos View Post
    adrien brody was awesome,
    You know. . .I was pleasantly surprised by how good he was in the role.
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    yeah, i've only seen a few films with adrien brody, but i've always thought he had a good screen presence and always came across as a convincing character.

    once i heard he was involved with this movie, i knew it had potential to be pretty good. sorry you didn't like it as much as some of us did, clang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfessorChaos View Post
    once i heard he was involved with this movie, i knew it had potential to be pretty good. sorry you didn't like it as much as some of us did, clang.
    Meh, it's no big deal. . . I didn't pay for it. Besides, I was entertained for a couple of hours. . . that's better than a lot of movies out there can say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    You know. . .I was pleasantly surprised by how good he was in the role.
    I thought Brody rocked the role too. Initially hearing he was going to be in it I thought "wtf?", but he really brought it in this movie - and when he strips off his shirt in the final battle, you're totally sold on him being this badass merc or whatever he was.

    I don't mean that in a sexual way, instead in a "fair play, he looks suitably bad ass" kind of way.

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    Enjoyed Predator 2, it's a Dark Horse Comic book on film. Great B science movie with good F/X, tons of explosions and firefights.






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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyebiter View Post
    Enjoyed Predator 2, it's a Dark Horse Comic book on film. Great B science movie with good F/X, tons of explosions and firefights.
    Yup, I agree. In fact, the only aspects of that first AvP that were even marginally cool (aside from the lost Antarctic city theme cribbed from predecessors like Poe & Lovecraft) were those snippets inspired by Dark Horse. Maybe some of the vile stuff could have been inspired by DH stuff I'm unaware of, as well...only have read so many of those and that was a long time ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    I thought Brody rocked the role too. Initially hearing he was going to be in it I thought "wtf?", but he really brought it in this movie - and when he strips off his shirt in the final battle, you're totally sold on him being this badass merc or whatever he was.
    I like Brody as an actor but when I first heard the guy who was a skeleton in The pianist was gonna be the hero, I had a hard time buying it.... I mean its not like Christian bale who went from being cut to The machinist to batman.

    But I was very surprised.. He was pretty convincing. My girlfriend said something I thought was pretty funny.. She said when Brody had his shirt off it reminded her of a little boy in a muscle suit costume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CooperWasRight View Post
    My girlfriend said something I thought was pretty funny.. She said when Brody had his shirt off it reminded her of a little boy in a muscle suit costume.
    I agree!

    But I do like Brody as a non-steroid abusing 'action hero'.

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    Some people are just not built to bulk up... I think the thing is his arms dont match the rest...so it looks awkward.
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    Just got back from this film, im not sure if I liked it or not really & im a big fan of the first, and definitely like the second! (I dont class the AvP films as part of the franchise)
    There was some cool scenes, but there was far too much obvious leaning on the first film, such as the Yakuza guy going all "billy", the scene where they all fall in the water after sliding down a hill, the mini-gun (how much ammo was that guy carrying anyway???), and even the traps that they stumbled into early on were very reminiscent of the one Arnie catches the first predator with, and when describing the dead guys last stand they used the line "he was shooting in all directions" which is lifted straight from the first film when Arnie discovers Hoppers skinned team!
    Plus it was all very convenient how they were wandering aimlessly through this vast jungle, but just kept stumbling on different set pieces like the cages, the predator camp, the traps etc. Also how come when they mention that the sun hasnt moved all day they are looking up at the sky, but they dont see all those other planets and moons till they walk out of that clearing?
    Some more character/plot development would have been nice too, such as explaining how the woman knew about Arnies team in '87 (I initially thought she was "anna" from the first one when she revealed that info) and some more back story on larry fishburnes character would have been good. I expected him to say he went missing from 'nam or something, but sadly it wasnt expanded on, nor was that place he was living in or how he killed a predator & had worked out how to use the mask/cloak/weapon. I did like that he was mumbling "ride of the valkeries" though, a nod to his apocalypse now role!
    Anyway I really wanted to like it more than I did, but it wasnt a bad film either & the effects were largely good, plus predators are always cool it just had something missing. 7/10 from me


    Quote Originally Posted by clanglee View Post
    What was so hard about it? [spoiler]the rest of the group were all predators in one way or another. At the very beginning he puts some of that neurotoxin on his little knife. hmmmm. . . .gonna guess that Topher is some sort of serial killer or something equally malicious right away. Why else would he be there?
    Actually I didnt see that coming, when he said he was a doctor early on I went through most of the film under the impression he had been put there to patch up minor injuries among the group to extend the hunt for the predators, I know thats a daft idea but thats the way I was looking at it until he revealed his true colours.
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    Tricky -
     
    I too thought that Topher Grace's character was there to patch people up, that's immediately what I thought, and with everything else happening, I'd forgotten about the poisonous knife thing ... although it's kind of odd that the stuff remained active on his knife for all that time without drying up or being wiped off.

    It was when he showed that picture of the Russian's kids as his own that I then turned 180 and said "oh yeah he's a bad dude, that's fucked up".

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