- Does Bruce need a walking stick or not? One minute he's falling over without it, the next he's running around fine?
It's not that fast a transition. Plus, we see him get that leg brace thing which allows him to walk again - a legitimate querie would be when he was in the prison and didn't have the leg brace, from what I can remember - then his leg was fine without support.
- His relationship with Miranda felt badly written. "Miranda's nice"... "Miranda's lovely" he's told... Then he finally meets her, and next moment they're kissing, doing the dirty and discussing running away togethor. Hmmm... Felt like a contrived element of the script.
Rushed, perhaps, I did feel that Tate was somewhat given short shrift in the script, but an element could also be that it was a passionate thing - Bruce Wayne has taken a right old knocking. He's lost Alfred, he's lost Wayne Enterprises, and he's looking back over other losses at that moment - namely Rachel - and she initiates the kiss as I remember, and clearly it's part of her plan to weaken him into trusting her to take over Wayne Enterprises, and therefore gain access to the Fusion Reactor.
- All the weapons in Bruce's weapons department fall into Bane's hands... and... he uses three batmobiles?
True to an extent, but I didn't really notice 'not enough weapons being used' personally. I'd imagine they also half-inched various types of armour and machine guns and such things. However, the Tumbler is the most iconic of all the things there, so it's the broadest stroke with which to get across the point ... if that makes sense?
- A bus load of orphans under threat? For goodness sake Hollywood, been there, done that a zillion times! Cliche!
Perhaps, but it's also connected to the story. Bruce Wayne is an orphan, John Blake is an orphan, and the latter remains connected to that charity as he grew up there, and doesn't like to see the 16+ year olds get kicked out and end up in the sewers. So naturally he's going to try and save the orphans there in the lead-up to the bomb going off, which he fails at, but fortunately that doesn't end in disaster for him ... then, with BW gone, his now rebuilt home becomes a new orphan shelter, which ties full circle with Bruce Wayne as the Billionaire Orphan, and was a nice way to tie up the Wayne Manor thread. Now - speaking of John Blake, how Blake knew Wayne was Batman never really convinced me - the whole 'you had the anger of an orphan' thing never really worked out. I was initially expecting him to say he was the little kid with the rowing parents in Batman Begins who sees Batman on the fire escape, and then Batman tosses him that gadget and flies off ... but no, the explanation given there didn't convince me at the time, but again, not a show stopper by any means, like all of these minor quibbles.
- Gotham's been cut off for three months, and under the control of armed gangs, but all seems otherwise pretty fine on the streets of Gotham? Garbage is still being collected, by the looks of it, and these armed gangs are happy to leave everyone alone except for picking some people to go and walk on ice? Really?
It's a terrorist occupation, and public services can still operate while under occupation. Paris didn't become a crumbling open sewer when the Nazi's occupied it. As for those getting "Exile or Death by Exile", they're clearly public figures, rich folks, and perceived 'enemies of the state' as judged by this terrorist regime as part of their house cleaning. You see the rich getting torn from their homes, and at one point you see the waste-ridden former homes of the rich, and Selina Kyle (with her blonde tag-along) in one of them. Blondie is totally into it, but Selina Kyle recognises that this was the home of a family when she looks at the shattered picture. There's clearly areas of waste around, and desperation, even though they're getting aid drops by the government IIRC ... clearly it's dangerous to be out on the streets, but not against the new law.
- 3000 police officers trapped underground? Why? Why not just kill them? Why leave them there only to escape?
I believe that was explained by Bane. They were giving them aid, but keeping them there. Part of a public relations exercise - in Bane's twisted way - he's not going to kill a few thousand cops and expect to win over Gotham's hearts and minds, even though he is dangling a bomb over their heads (while keeping secret that it'll go off anyway in a few weeks/months). This issue was addressed in the movie.
- 3000 police officers come out from underground after 3-4months, all clean shaven and looking well manicured?
A legitimate quibble - I thought the same thing. They looked a bit dusty, but it wasn't exactly the Chilean Miners, was it? Even their uniforms weren't that mucky.
- 3000 police officers run at individuals armed to the teeth, and only 5 get shot? Surely it would be a blood bath in the front rows. Apparently not?
More than
five got shot.
- Can someone explain what they're looking at to deduce the autopilot was available on the Bat?
Summut to do with computers, innit.
And now the biggy for me:-
- So they want to destroy Gotham... So why not do that? They have a bomb? Why wait 3-4 months? Just press the damn button! Or would that make the film too short?
Again, IIRC, this was dealed with in the movie - it's all about breaking Gotham's spirit and pulling them right down to the very ground before wasting the whole place. It's about making them suffer, and making a big show of it to the rest of the nation/world. Make them suffer and struggle before pushing the button. Plus, Bane doesn't just shoot Bruce Wayne in the prison, he leaves him there to let him watch Gotham crumble under Bane's might to break his spirit and make him suffer too - but naturally, that part of Bane's plan doesn't work out.
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