I got the disc version, and yesterday I finished the story mode of Lost & Damned - having not had it as DLC, because I don't have XBL. I've put in about 15 hours for L&D, and Gay Tony will probably be around about that too, so 30+ hours for £25 is cool by me - GTA IV retailed at £40, but I did get like 170 hours out of that ... seriously (two play-throughs and LOTS of fucking around). 
I haven't gotten onto Gay Tony yet, as I'm waiting to play that after MW2 gets here (which I'll no doubt blast through in a couple of days, whereas GTA games I take a lot longer to play through, so...)
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As for Lost & Damned, some of the early missions are terrible - poorly crafted, and you can easily get killed, or have almost all of your health rinsed in seconds. However, after those first few disappointing/fucking annoying missions it gets much more fun and the action is better handled.
Also, cruising around on the choppers is really fun, as is the cammeraderie with your fellow bikers. The story isn't amazing by any means, it's really stuff that just happened concurrent to GTA IV, hence the diamonds story is back again from a different angle - which is cool, but not groundbreaking at all.
Klebitz isn't quite as cool as Niko Bellic, but he's better than I'd been led to believe. You're a badass biker, and that's pretty cool. You'll also spend a lot more time in Alderney, which was kinda skirted over a bit in GTA IV (Broker, Bohan, and Algonquin being the ones that got the most of a look-in during that game).
Aye, only have one - and briefly two - safe houses is annoying, but on the other hand you don't have your friends pestering you all the time to hang out. In fact, I was never once pestered. I was the one engaging any man-dates, and that's all.
It doesn't out-stay it's welcome either, which is good. The Gang Wars side-missions are fun, but become generic and repetitive after a while, as do the races which are only spiced up a little bit by the inclusion of bat-based hitting of opponents - but once you're ahead, you'll have no need to hit anyone and just win the race.
The new music and radio stuff is cool too - including the return of Fernando (from GTA Vice City) on the Vice City radio station. More Lazlow too, and a bunch of kick arse songs.
There's also side missions (intimidation, blackmail and killing) that you do for a politician called Stubbs (who gets his cock out in one cutscene - full frontal nudity in an adult game at last ... shame it was a dude  ), which are generally cool. Finally, there's a few of those short missions that you'd get with a figure of a person on your map. About 3 or 4 of those, and that wraps it up.
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Like I said, I've only so far done Lost & Damned (just got 8 more (out of 25) Gang Wars to do and then I'll be pretty much done, as I can't be arsed with races). It's cool to see how it links in with GTA IV, but turn off the "grain" option as it's just annoying. The game is better looking without that crap gimmick turned on. 
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So yeah, Gay Tony will follow sometime soon, but seeing Lost & Damned I can see where some of the missions of Gay Tony will fit in and what they'll entail - i.e. more diamond related plot, which should be cool.
I've heard that Gay Tony does feature a few pish missions - IGN calling them "the worst in GTA history" - but whether that means impossibly frustrating, or just boring I don't know (hopefully the latter because you can just bash them out and be done with them). Otherwise though, it has been well received, and is essentially more of the same you got with GTA IV, but in Gay Tony's case, it's more about the glitz and glamour of Liberty City, as well as being more brash and explosion-oriented.
I think once I have played Gay Tony, I'll have had my fill of GTA IV's world, and apparently that will indeed be it - and I think that's a good idea. A new-gen Vice City type game in the 1970s is what I want. 
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