Rumor: Wii successor at E3, significantly more powerful than PS3/360

[Danny]

Who are these folks, exactly? friends who work in games development nowadays and a relative who writes for a games magazine, what did you think? "my dad totally works for nintendo"? nothing spectacular but they are guys i know rarely to fuck with me. One of em i would trust hands down said one thing yesterday in conversation that got me excited, basically describing how the controller is some massive leaping advance on the few gamecube games that used a gameboy as a second screen and interface. Now i remember using it for zelda and it gave you extra abilities like infinite bombs to drop on the gba screens minimap. If it does that kind of thing it could be exciting. But knowing nintendo you would expect them to just make you need a 3ds for that. So im wondering what the screens for. But the dreamcast fanboy in me remembers how neat that was so maybe the controller acts as a smaller, independent device for some games maybe? I'd love to see what hideo kojimas mind could strum up.

[Rottedfreak]

I'd love to see what hideo kojimas mind could strum up. 2005 Nintendo unveils the Wii Remote Hideo Kojima's reaction: "They've done it!" later on: "HD is just a gimmick I do war games the dirtier the better." As of 2011 Metal Gear Solid 4 - Playstation 3 Metal Gear Solid Riisng - Playstation 3 and Xbox 360 Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops - Playstation Portable Metal Gear Solid 3DS: The Naked Snake - 3DS Solid Snake was in Super Smash Bros Brawl. The 'Project Cafe' rumours point to Wii's successor being three core with 'at least' 512 Mb of RAM, a GPU equivalent to R700 (2007/08 tech) and porting games from the 360 and PS3 'should be a breeze' and have motion controls 'better then Move'. While I'm sure a original game would be awesome MGSR is made for the Wii Remote Plus

[CoinReturn]

Allegedly leaked pics, currently named "Stream": http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=428106

[ProfessorChaos]

so the wii, now the stream? sounds like someone has an obsession with piss.... i really hope they come up with a better name than that....

[Rottedfreak]

Here's the rumours in total Nintendo are releasing a Triple core HD console using a revamped R700 GPU for $350 - 400 (£250 - 300) late this year, it features a controller with a six inch 1080p touchscreen which you can stream games onto and the console is fully backward compatible with Gamecube and Wii games. If all of this is true what they need are exclusive games or exclusives in multiplats and damn good ones at that. I have brought up Dead Rising and Metal Gear before in this thread and I think motion plus support would make them killer aps on Stream. Resident Evil 5 with Wiimote controls, you could have the best of both worlds in all these games by having HD graphics and optional conventional or motion controls.

[Neil]

so the wii, now the stream? Sounds like someone has an obsession with piss.... lol!!

[Rottedfreak]

Three times as powerful as the 360? http://revoeyes.blogspot.com/2011/04...rful-than.html Also Wii games in HD? Like a patch to play Super Mario Galaxy and Legend of Zelda games in HD? If those controllers are true, imagine inviting four friends over with their controllers and playing Left 4 Dead, One of you could just pop to the kitchen, monitor the kettle, washer or dryer or go to the toilet and keep playing. (Nice signiture with Carl Sagan there, I never even heard of him until I saw this Family Guy spoof on Youtube where he's been edited for bible thumping rednecks.)

[Mitchified]

Unfortunately, this new system will probably have the same issues that Nintendo has had for over a decade now: a lot of third party developers aren't happy to work with Nintendo, and so they simply don't. Nintendo almost seems to go out of their way to make it difficult to develop on their systems. I was reading an article a while back about how developers weren't even aware that the Wii was coming out until it was announced to the public, so they didn't have advanced notice to actually start making games. That's why the Wii's release titles were so anemic. Now, granted, a spokesman for Nintendo has said that they are going to get better at it, but they've said that multiple times in the past and it's only gotten worse.

[CoinReturn]

Now, granted, a spokesman for Nintendo has said that they are going to get better at it, but they've said that multiple times in the past and it's only gotten worse. Capcom and Ubisoft seem to have a lot of faith in the 3DS at least, so that's something. It's just too bad for Nintendo that everyone equates their systems with first party titles (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.). I guess it's not a bad thing for them, as the Wii still sold like crazy, but I'd definitely like to see some non-Nintendo developed exclusives for this next system.

[Mitchified]

Capcom and Ubisoft seem to have a lot of faith in the 3DS at least, so that's something. It's just too bad for Nintendo that everyone equates their systems with first party titles (Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc.). I guess it's not a bad thing for them, as the Wii still sold like crazy, but I'd definitely like to see some non-Nintendo developed exclusives for this next system. It's going to be interesting to see how things work out, because logically Nintendo can't go the same route that they did with the Wii. The reason it sold a bajillion units was because it was designed to be a "casual" system that appealed even to people that didn't really play video games. Those casual fans won't really have a reason to purchase the new system (they already have the Wii, after all, and non-gamers won't see a major reason to get a brand new system), so Nintendo is going to have to appeal to more serious gamers if they want the system to succeed. Thus they're going to have to work with more third party developers if they really want it to work. It will be interesting to see if companies like BioWare will be open to developing for Nintendo or if they will stick to their guns and only produce for the other platforms.

[bassman]

Nintendo admitted to the rumors this past weekend. Playable demos at E3. "Nintendo Co. Ltd. has decided to launch in 2012 a system in to succeed Wii...We will show a playable model of the new system and announce more specifications at the E3 Expo, which will be held from June 7-9, 2011, in Los Angeles"

[SymphonicX]

To be honest I could buy a shitty PC from PC world that can beat the specs of the ps3 and xbox....lol Claiming to beat old hardware isn't particularly impressive - consoles are just a PC in a box now, so comparitively to even a modest gaming rig, the 360 and ps3 look weak - not to mention the original wii. If they came out and said "the new wii will have a dual sli graphics card running at 3GB with dual quad core processors with a 12mb cache that will handle native stereo 3D (not side by side view ala Crysis, CODBLOPS etc) then I might be impressed! Anyway regardless of it's power, what use is that to anyone if all they keep churning out are stuipd baby games?

[MikePizzoff]

That first picture Coin posted looked like it was just an ad for an external HDD or some sort of already-existing developer hardware. Why would Nintendo have a thing saying "Easy portability from PC, XBOX 360" ??? To me it seems like it's XBOX 360 developer hardware.

[Mr. Clean]

They'll have to venture away from the cartoonish games for me to be that interested. I never got a Wii because majority of the titles where more postured for younger people. I understand that pulling Mario/Link out of a cartoonish setting is damn near impossible because of that's what their built upon and that they have released a few titles directd more towards adults but bowling with shitty characters or playing Olympic games with Sega characters got boring pretty damn fast.

[Mitchified]

They'll have to venture away from the cartoonish games for me to be that interested. I never got a Wii because majority of the titles where more postured for younger people. I understand that pulling Mario/Link out of a cartoonish setting is damn near impossible because of that's what their built upon and that they have released a few titles directd more towards adults but bowling with shitty characters or playing Olympic games with Sega characters got boring pretty damn fast. Hey, there were adult themes on the Wii, too. I distinctly remember them raping the Metroid franchise repeatedly in Other M.