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    okay i just saw this for the first time and speakng as a long time silent hill fanboy who holds the series in the same frame of mind as most of you do the dead films....

    WHAT THE ****?!?

    it starts off okay, even though all but two characters had there names changed to be more .....american , but then about half way through it just throws the plot out of the window to become hollywood fodder.

    in fact im so pissed im just gonna give a list.


    1:silenthill isnt in west virginia
    2:rose should be a bloke called harry mason
    3:sharon should be chryl
    4:the cop guy should have been a doctor
    5yramidhead was a part of the 2nd games main characters psyche, so why he even existed before the character is beyond impossible he just looked cool.
    6:the town didnt burn only 3 or 4 buildings, dahlia herself burnt allesa to awaken the cults god that was inside her/ her father (yeah i know it gets worse) and kept her alive in the hospital
    7:it bypasses over half the game and runs with it ...in a downward spiral
    8:aleesa killed dahlia at the end
    9:floaty wire shooting woman...huh?
    10:christabella was from comic books and not proper silent hill canon and had nothing to do with it she was meant to be a little girl in white who controlled the monsters.
    11:cybil was meant to turn into a monster
    12:there was only meant to be 5 people in the town the rest became the monsters!!!!!
    13:in the end either it turned out to be the last dream of the lead character and if thats true after she hit the steering wheel it was her last nightmare while she died and only shaun beans bits were real, cybil died when her bike crashed. OR allessa and cheryl (sharon) joined as one and her real daughter "heather" was given to harry/ rose.
    14:they didnt explore new silent hill ,the mall, the fair ground or the other world in her mind
    15:miners?
    16:no were was safe from the transition to dark world
    17:why did her phone/ radio only go off once?, its meant to be a warning when monsters are near.
    18:it was fog NOT ash
    19:harrys/rose's daughter was a part of allessa but not sent to the orphanage which only appears 3 sequels later, but found by the roadside/field by harry and his dieing wife they never heard of silent hill and are going there on vacation
    20:she didnt wake up in the bowling alley in the game but the resturant were he meets cybil instead
    21nce again wtf?
    22:the symbol they worship is not in the game the real symbol, the halo of the sun, is way...way more complex and i guess a cross was cheaper than something compilcated.
    23:again, WHY THE **** IS PYRAMIDHEAD THERE?!?!?
    24:she didnt have one gun in the film!
    25: what the hell whent wrong with the second half in general, nothing to do with the game!
    26:the changing wolr dthing only happens while shes/he is outside once much later to the end
    27:nothing about the PTV or whie claudia drug under story OR the ancient history of the town
    28:the was no coal mining in silent hill it was a penla colony.
    29:dahlia led the cult herself she was the bad guy
    30: the whole 'colin' the janitor thing was bullcrap too

    well ill stop at 30 but this is less faithul to it than resident evil apocalypse was to resi 3: nemesis.
    ive seen less predictable episodes of CSI.

    overall as a long time fan im really pissed, it was noe of my directing dreams to make this film and i can safetly say i 100% would have written it better at least, very poor and i pray they dont try to change the story of silent hill 2 or im going jay and silent bob on them and heading to the studio


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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    okay i just saw this for the first time and speakng as a long time silent hill fanboy who holds the series in the same frame of mind as most of you do the dead films....

    WHAT THE ****?!?

    it starts off okay, even though all but two characters had there names changed to be more .....american , but then about half way through it just throws the plot out of the window to become hollywood fodder.

    in fact im so pissed im just gonna give a list.


    1:silenthill isnt in west virginia
    2:rose should be a bloke called harry mason
    3:sharon should be chryl
    4:the cop guy should have been a doctor
    5yramidhead was a part of the 2nd games main characters psyche, so why he even existed before the character is beyond impossible he just looked cool.
    6:the town didnt burn only 3 or 4 buildings, dahlia herself burnt allesa to awaken the cults god that was inside her/ her father (yeah i know it gets worse) and kept her alive in the hospital
    7:it bypasses over half the game and runs with it ...in a downward spiral
    8:aleesa killed dahlia at the end
    9:floaty wire shooting woman...huh?
    10:christabella was from comic books and not proper silent hill canon and had nothing to do with it she was meant to be a little girl in white who controlled the monsters.
    11:cybil was meant to turn into a monster
    12:there was only meant to be 5 people in the town the rest became the monsters!!!!!
    13:in the end either it turned out to be the last dream of the lead character and if thats true after she hit the steering wheel it was her last nightmare while she died and only shaun beans bits were real, cybil died when her bike crashed. OR allessa and cheryl (sharon) joined as one and her real daughter "heather" was given to harry/ rose.
    14:they didnt explore new silent hill ,the mall, the fair ground or the other world in her mind
    15:miners?
    16:no were was safe from the transition to dark world
    17:why did her phone/ radio only go off once?, its meant to be a warning when monsters are near.
    18:it was fog NOT ash
    19:harrys/rose's daughter was a part of allessa but not sent to the orphanage which only appears 3 sequels later, but found by the roadside/field by harry and his dieing wife they never heard of silent hill and are going there on vacation
    20:she didnt wake up in the bowling alley in the game but the resturant were he meets cybil instead
    21nce again wtf?
    22:the symbol they worship is not in the game the real symbol, the halo of the sun, is way...way more complex and i guess a cross was cheaper than something compilcated.
    23:again, WHY THE **** IS PYRAMIDHEAD THERE?!?!?
    24:she didnt have one gun in the film!
    25: what the hell whent wrong with the second half in general, nothing to do with the game!
    26:the changing wolr dthing only happens while shes/he is outside once much later to the end
    27:nothing about the PTV or whie claudia drug under story OR the ancient history of the town
    28:the was no coal mining in silent hill it was a penla colony.
    29:dahlia led the cult herself she was the bad guy
    30: the whole 'colin' the janitor thing was bullcrap too

    well ill stop at 30 but this is less faithul to it than resident evil apocalypse was to resi 3: nemesis.
    ive seen less predictable episodes of CSI.

    overall as a long time fan im really pissed, it was noe of my directing dreams to make this film and i can safetly say i 100% would have written it better at least, very poor and i pray they dont try to change the story of silent hill 2 or im going jay and silent bob on them and heading to the studio

    the full storyline, including history, of silent hill is far far far too long and complicated to be squashed into a film.

    as far as Game > Movie converts go, i thought it was pretty damn good, in fact i can honestly say it was the first one ive liked and i think comparing it to resident evil is pretty dumb..

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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    1:silenthill isnt in west virginia
    2:rose should be a bloke called harry mason
    3:sharon should be chryl
    4:the cop guy should have been a doctor
    5yramidhead was a part of the 2nd games main characters psyche, so why he even existed before the character is beyond impossible he just looked cool.
    6:the town didnt burn only 3 or 4 buildings, dahlia herself burnt allesa to awaken the cults god that was inside her/ her father (yeah i know it gets worse) and kept her alive in the hospital
    7:it bypasses over half the game and runs with it ...in a downward spiral
    8:aleesa killed dahlia at the end
    9:floaty wire shooting woman...huh?
    10:christabella was from comic books and not proper silent hill canon and had nothing to do with it she was meant to be a little girl in white who controlled the monsters.
    11:cybil was meant to turn into a monster
    12:there was only meant to be 5 people in the town the rest became the monsters!!!!!
    13:in the end either it turned out to be the last dream of the lead character and if thats true after she hit the steering wheel it was her last nightmare while she died and only shaun beans bits were real, cybil died when her bike crashed. OR allessa and cheryl (sharon) joined as one and her real daughter "heather" was given to harry/ rose.
    14:they didnt explore new silent hill ,the mall, the fair ground or the other world in her mind
    15:miners?
    16:no were was safe from the transition to dark world
    17:why did her phone/ radio only go off once?, its meant to be a warning when monsters are near.
    18:it was fog NOT ash
    19:harrys/rose's daughter was a part of allessa but not sent to the orphanage which only appears 3 sequels later, but found by the roadside/field by harry and his dieing wife they never heard of silent hill and are going there on vacation
    20:she didnt wake up in the bowling alley in the game but the resturant were he meets cybil instead
    21nce again wtf?
    22:the symbol they worship is not in the game the real symbol, the halo of the sun, is way...way more complex and i guess a cross was cheaper than something compilcated.
    23:again, WHY THE **** IS PYRAMIDHEAD THERE?!?!?
    24:she didnt have one gun in the film!
    25: what the hell whent wrong with the second half in general, nothing to do with the game!
    26:the changing wolr dthing only happens while shes/he is outside once much later to the end
    27:nothing about the PTV or whie claudia drug under story OR the ancient history of the town
    28:the was no coal mining in silent hill it was a penla colony.
    29:dahlia led the cult herself she was the bad guy
    30: the whole 'colin' the janitor thing was bullcrap too
    If you didn't notice, the working title of this film wasSilent Hill: Centralia. Centralia IS an old coal mining town that has been burning for decades now. Only, it's not in West Virginia, like stated in the movie, it's in Central PA (I've been there, pretty cool).

    I also thought that this was probably the best video game to movie conversion I've ever seen. You're picking it apart way too much. "She didnt wake up in this location in the game, wtf?!?!" .... so what if she woke up in a different location in the movie? It was probably for the better (time and entertainment wise).

    Don't get so mad that they had a (few) character(s) that weren't in the original game, but in sequels. I liked that they did that. I'm very happy with pyramidhead's performance in the film.

    I don't know. We can argue points all day and probably never change each others opinions on the film. I just felt like giving some of my imput on some of what you said.

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    im with mike here, im a HUGE fan of the game and the comics, so i know what im talking about

    a game, especially one as rich and complex as silent hill, NEEDS to be simplified for a movie and i think they did a very good job of it, your picking at it way too much! the majority of your arguments against it there are childish and irrevelent, out of all of them i would say about 10 are valid. and i could argue those down if i wanted to

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    All I know is that it was a good film, and probibly the best video game to movie conversion i've seen. Great one, loved it

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePizzoff View Post
    You're picking it apart way too much. "She didnt wake up in this location in the game, wtf?!?!" .... so what if she woke up in a different location in the movie? It was probably for the better (time and entertainment wise).

    okay you make some fair points BUT i stand by this one cus he/ she was meant to black out and wake up in an alley to meet cybil for the first time IN town in a resturant and get there first weapon and torch, which meant they could have cut out the whole return to the car and handcuff bit and put more of the game in instead thats why that one pissed me off cus it wasted so mutch time n the long run when the director could have added some more cool stuff later on.

    plus the director chose a writer who had never heard of silent hill, now i think you can all agree that was a bad move, its like getting someone to make a sequel to a dead film without ever having seen one......which probably explains contagium
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    Hmmm, well, I watched this movie just 2 days ago. It was interesting, but that's as far as i'd go with it.

    The three things I can say about this movie is: I liked the soundtrack, the cinematography was great, and the camera movements in this movie were simply incredible. The sweeping crane/dolly shots really gave the movie an ominous feeling. There was hardly ever a still camera shot. I likey.

    As far as the storyline is concerned, I was never a huge fan of the games, nor have I really played any of 'em long enough to 'get' the whole story, so... coming from that side of things, this was an entertaining movie 'till the last 2 minutes.

    The ending, however, sucked - regardless of what they were trying to imply about the wife and kid - it just sucked, and I hate movies with 'open' endings like this. If you're gonna tell a story in a movie, FINISH IT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HLS View Post
    My take on it is that they died in the wreck which would explain how the husband senced her spirit when he went searching for her in the town. I thought it was so so sad.
    Just a little trivia. She played also in Pitch Black
    That would fit with the first Silent Hill videogame on the Playstation in which the father actually died in the car crash. (At least one of the endings.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dawg View Post
    That would fit with the first Silent Hill videogame on the Playstation in which the father actually died in the car crash. (At least one of the endings.)

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    Only the demon can travel between realities.

    When sharon and her daughter leave silent hill, they leave the town but stay in the alternative reality. they are not dead. this is why she can phone her husband (and its just static) and why he can sense her when their close.

    its also why the world outside of silent hill (gas station and her house) are still dull and lifeless.

    and dawg thats the bad ending you speak of, the good+ ending is generally considered the correct one

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    yeah cus the good ending leads onto silent hill 3 but the one dawgs on about was...if memory serves "the last nightmare of a dying man"

    and yeah akira yamoakas music kicks ass that was the one thing all the fans on the forums wanted "they gotta use his music" cus hes a genius.

    and at the start with the camera angles exactly like the game was pretty damn cool, so though we may hate static camera in survival horror it rocks in horror films, i may try my hand at it in my next short film


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    One thing that impressed me about the film was the way it didn't use cheap scare tactics like a character backing from the direction of a noise and turning around to face another character or monster. They could have so easily made a big thing of Cybil going to the car too, like have haunting music play as she approached it from behind then have the woman jump as Cybil tapped on the window.
    Instead they tried to make it unsettling in other ways.

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    yeah thats a lesson we had in film called "how to avoid having your film go all 'wes craven' ", it was basically the prof's opportunity to take the piss out of scream for 2 hours


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    the other dimension they were in i think you have to die to enter since all 3 girls died on the high way to silent hill.

    now someone said somewhere along the line that youve have been denying ur death for 30 years

    and thats why i think they died

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