Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (film)

[AcesandEights]

The original films must be my most revisited set of scifi - films. My appreciation of them seems a bit different from the rest of humanity's as I like 'Beneath' as much as the original and I have no problems whatsoever with the low budget 'Battle'. I actually have grown, over the years, to really appreciate Battle. I didn't really understand whether it was supposed to be a closed loop, or alternate timeline...or lead to an alternate timeline when I was watching as a little kid, so it seemed weird and off putting to me. Can't blame yuonger-me really, as the original writer who did the treatment seems to have varyingly maintained the story is a closed loop in the past, despite it clearly leading to open line possibility. I think it was a great way to end the series.

[bassman]

I suppose it's open to interpretation, but I've always felt Battle made it a closed loop. After Battle, it would later lead into the original "Planet..." or at least a variation of it. Although...was Caesar's son Cornelius supposed to be the Cornelius from Planet-Conquest?

[wayzim]

I suppose it's open to interpretation, but I've always felt Battle made it a closed loop. After Battle, it would later lead into the original "Planet..." or at least a variation of it. Although...was Caesar's son Cornelius supposed to be the Cornelius from Planet-Conquest? I wouldn't think so, if it's a closed loop. And I'm fairly sure that this is an alternate time line. The original leader of the ape rebellion was a gorilla named Aldo, who was the first to utter the word NO, as had been done so by their human masters. But this took place hundreds of years after the great plague which had killed off all the dogs and cats. In Escape From POTA, when Zira gave birth to Milo/Caesar, he became the new leader, who could speak because his parents could. Sound about right? Wayne Z

[bassman]

I wouldn't think so, if it's a closed loop. And I'm fairly sure that this is an alternate time line. The original leader of the ape rebellion was a gorilla named Aldo, who was the first to utter the word NO, as had been done so by their human masters. But this took place hundreds of years after the great plague which had killed off all the dogs and cats. In Escape From POTA, when Zira gave birth to Milo/Caesar, he became the new leader, who could speak because his parents could. Sound about right? Wayne Z Although events had been changed due to Cornelius and Zira's time travelling, Aldo was technically in Battle. He asks if Ape should ever kill man, everyone panics, then he later says No to his human teacher, iirc. Not exactly the same as the original timeline, but similar in a way. There are so many similarities and differences at the same time, I think it was meant to be open to the viewer's opinion. There are good arguments for both sides as to whether it was the same timeline loop or an alternate timeline.

[Darkest Hour]

WZ seems to have a grip on this topic.Others,not so much. DH

[Neil]

Official site up - http://www.dawnofapes.com/

[bassman]

New poster: Could that baby be Cornelius?!?

[Neil]

^^ CGI is getting amazing!

[bassman]

Really looking forward to this...

[krisvds]

Me too. Who would have thought the first one would turn out so good? One of the very few actually good remakes/re-imaginings in recent years.

[Neil]

Clever stuff isn't it! Not just the motion capture, but the fact the human characters, and all their gubbins so so perfectly chopped out and replaced with an ape and/or background (that wasn't caught on film because things were in the way).

[Neil]

[krisvds]

I was looking forward to this sequel before, now I am really looking forward to it. The only thing I dislike is Caesar's voice; it's like he's impersonating Nolan's Batman or something ...

[Neil]

^^ Shame these trailers are showing so much Stopped half way thru!

[wayzim]

^^ Shame these trailers are showing so much Stopped half way thru! I'm still stoked.