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  1. 02-Jun-2008 #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    What like, 'The fish is in the toaster!'?
    Yeah, something along those lines.
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    Another image potentially showing ice...



    http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/p...602update.html
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    Uh oh!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7442233.stm
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    I know this is probably a stupid question,but im not educated in this field so forgive me!how the hell are they managing to control that thing considering the massive distance between mars & earth?my dad has a £4000 radio control tank which does all sorts but if you drive it more than about 30-40 metres from where your standing it loses signal & stops so you have to stay in range,so they must have one hell of a transmitter to be carrying out all the complex operations the mars buggy is doing 56 million kilometers away!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    I know this is probably a stupid question,but im not educated in this field so forgive me!how the hell are they managing to control that thing considering the massive distance between mars & earth?my dad has a £4000 radio control tank which does all sorts but if you drive it more than about 30-40 metres from where your standing it loses signal & stops so you have to stay in range,so they must have one hell of a transmitter to be carrying out all the complex operations the mars buggy is doing 56 million kilometers away!
    Clever programming! Remember a transmission to/from it takes 10-15 mins to cover the distance! Every command will be carefully considered, considered and re-considered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Clever programming! Remember a transmission to/from it takes 10-15 mins to cover the distance! Every command will be carefully considered, considered and re-considered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terran View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Uh oh!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7442233.stm
    seems like that has all been sorted out and the first oven is full and ready to go. bumps in the road like this are bound to happen, luckily the oven screens came equipped with devices to shake them back and forth.

    http://www.astronomynow.com/080612Anovenfullofsand.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio70 View Post
    seems like that has all been sorted out and the first oven is full and ready to go. bumps in the road like this are bound to happen, luckily the oven screens came equipped with devices to shake them back and forth.

    http://www.astronomynow.com/080612Anovenfullofsand.html
    Fingers crossed for some interesting 'baking'...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    I know this is probably a stupid question,but im not educated in this field so forgive me!how the hell are they managing to control that thing considering the massive distance between mars & earth?my dad has a £4000 radio control tank which does all sorts but if you drive it more than about 30-40 metres from where your standing it loses signal & stops so you have to stay in range,so they must have one hell of a transmitter to be carrying out all the complex operations the mars buggy is doing 56 million kilometers away!
    simplest answer is that radios used in spacecraft transmit signals using microwaves (UHF, VHF or EHF). the phoenix lander to has send signals through a relay station (either the mars odyssey or the mars recon orbiter) which then retransmit it to earth using their more powerful microwave transmitters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio70 View Post
    seems like that has all been sorted out and the first oven is full and ready to go. bumps in the road like this are bound to happen, luckily the oven screens came equipped with devices to shake them back and forth.

    http://www.astronomynow.com/080612Anovenfullofsand.html
    No results yet?
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    Still no results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Still no results?
    i read today at the phoenix homepage that the experiment is still underway. it involves baking at 3 different temp ranges. i also expect that the large amount of data returned will take some sifting through before any results are announced.
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    Well that was all a bit easy One quick dig in the sand, and Bingo! Bango!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7465419.stm
    http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/p...080620ice.html
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    yes very interesting. ice that near the surface is good news indeed. this is going to be an interesting mission for sure.

    also the initial results from the ovens are in. this data is from only 2 of the 3 baking points and like the article says is probably not representative anymore of what is in the soil since it sat for several days before the experiment started.

    http://www.astronomynow.com/080617Fi...nixbakery.html
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