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    I liked Spidey 3. Hey, sue me.

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    I didn't think Spiderman 3 was all that bad, either. It wasn't as good as 2, which I think is the best of the trilogy, but it definitely wasn't bad. I think the main problem was that they tried to cram too much story into an average length film. Too many new and returning characters to deal with properly in 2 hours.

    It could have definitely been worse. Just look at the last film in the previous Batman series. Spiderman 3 looks like Ben Hur by comparison...

    Whatever sony does with Spiderman...I hope it's a few years down the road. If they try to quickly spit out a new film with a new cast and crew it's probably going to bite them in the ass. They need to let some time pass.

    Either that or go the reasonable route and...ya know....let it go. You made billions off of a successful trilogy. Quit milking it and be happy with what you got.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    thats because games workshop are whiny bitches about 40k, the was a fan made german feature film that they shut.the.fuck.down. faster than jared will shove a subway up his ass.

    thats the subway diet. you poop out yer' mouth.
    GW is getting slightly better in that regard. I mean, 40k is a great setting, and it is a shame that it hasn't been explored in a feature film.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    I didn't think Spiderman 3 was all that bad, either. It wasn't as good as 2, which I think is the best of the trilogy, but it definitely wasn't bad. I think the main problem was that they tried to cram too much story into an average length film. Too many new and returning characters to deal with properly in 2 hours.
    Exactly. It happened with the Batman franchise, it happened with the X-men franchise, and Spidey 4 (at least what info had been leaked) looked to be more of the same. I dig Anne Hathaway as much as the next guy, but the Vulturess?!? Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot?

    But I enjoyed Spidey 3. Topher Grace was a pretty good Venom (ducks), and I dug how Thomas Haden Church portayed Sandman. (Of course, he already looks like the guy to begin with). I didn't even mind the musical number.

    The only glaring issue I have with the movie is: right before the climactic fight, when Harry is agonizing over the whole "my best friend, my arch-enemy" subplot, again, the butler says (and I'm paraphrasing here):

    "By the way, sir, I probably should have told you this a couple movies ago, but Spider Man didn't actually kill your father."

    Argh.

    And I don't recall seeing the butler character in either of the previous films. Where the hell was this guy? Good help is hard to find, I suppose...
    Those aren't real problems, Sam.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
    It happened with the Batman franchise...
    Joel Shumacher and the toy company are what ruined the Batman franchise. It was more about the marketing and kiddies than it was making a good film.

    But at least the reboot of the batman series made sense. It was almost ten years between the two series and people had pretty much forgotten or stopped caring about the Burton/Shumacher era. Hell...Batman Begins barely scraped by in theater from what I remember. It did well enough, but it really didn't gain it's true following until dvd and broadcasting. But to start over with Spidey so soon? They're going to run it into the ground with sequels and spinoff movies like fox is doing with Wolverine(1&2) and Xmen: First Class.

    I've said it a million time and I'll say it a million more....god bless Christopher Nolan.
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    Despite doing the WoW movie apparently, if the dude had WoW and SM4 on his slate, I'm sure that now he's dropped SM4, he'd be able to find the time for Evil Dead 4 - which would be a far smaller movie than SM4. If you can juggle WoW and SM4, you can juggle WoW and ED4, is what I'm saying.

    Gotta live in hope. They both want to do it, it seems, so maybe this development will give Raimi more immediate inspiration to do it.

    Just get Campbell on a bit of a diet to trim off some of the paunch, dye his hair (apart from the grey streak the character has/had), and then set it somewhere along the line - providing they go with the original 'down' ending to ED3.

    ...

    Also, I so don't care about seeing X-Men: The First Class. Likewise, I don't want to see a SM film without Maguire/Raimi. A reboot already is taking the piss.

    While Nolan made Batman awesome again, it's awful how a bunch of fuckers just blurt out "Batman Begins!" as an all-powerful excuse to reboot/prequel freaking anything and everything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    While Nolan made Batman awesome again, it's awful how a bunch of fuckers just blurt out "Batman Begins!" as an all-powerful excuse to reboot/prequel freaking anything and everything.
    I know! They always mention BB and Casino Royale. Just because those two were made well doesn't mean everyone else should try. Not to mention the Batman and 007 franchises desperately NEEDED another direction. Spiderman and Xmen don't. Yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    I know! They always mention BB and Casino Royale. Just because those two were made well doesn't mean everyone else should try. Not to mention the Batman and 007 franchises desperately NEEDED another direction. Spiderman and Xmen don't. Yet.
    Spot on, chap.

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    The only Spidey movies worth a damn are 1 & 2, 2 being the best of the bunch. 3 was utterly pointless, and nothing shy of a complete hack job. Cancelling a Spidey 4 is perfectly ok with me, and there is no fucking need for a reboot

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    Despite doing the WoW movie apparently, if the dude had WoW and SM4 on his slate, I'm sure that now he's dropped SM4, he'd be able to find the time for Evil Dead 4 - which would be a far smaller movie than SM4. If you can juggle WoW and SM4, you can juggle WoW and ED4, is what I'm saying.

    Gotta live in hope. They both want to do it, it seems, so maybe this development will give Raimi more immediate inspiration to do it.

    Just get Campbell on a bit of a diet to trim off some of the paunch, dye his hair (apart from the grey streak the character has/had), and then set it somewhere along the line - providing they go with the original 'down' ending to ED3.

    ...

    Also, I so don't care about seeing X-Men: The First Class. Likewise, I don't want to see a SM film without Maguire/Raimi. A reboot already is taking the piss.

    While Nolan made Batman awesome again, it's awful how a bunch of fuckers just blurt out "Batman Begins!" as an all-powerful excuse to reboot/prequel freaking anything and everything.
    They do it because Batman Begins was jaw droppingly awesome and honestly after the 2 fucks up known as Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, no one thought anyone could save the franchise.
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    The Spidey flicks are okay, I guess...

    I'm kinda happy Raimi dropped out tbh. Now he can go back to doing what he does best; lovely low budget horror flicks, cheap gags, and 'boffo stunts'. It's Murder!, Clockwork, and Within The Woods like a motherfucker, yo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG View Post

    They do it because Batman Begins was jaw droppingly awesome and honestly after the 2 fucks up known as Batman Forever and Batman and Robin, no one thought anyone could save the franchise.
    Say what you will....but Batman Forever is enjoyable in it's own way. In fact...it reminds me of the Spiderman flicks. Just enough cheese but not too OTT. I like it.

    I used to hate it as much as B&R, but I recently went back and watched the box set and I liked it...
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    im gonna come out and say it. i love the dark knight, watched it on bluray the other day and its superb. but i dont like the first one. no major complaints but its another origin story that didnt need to be all of that. the beggining in gotham when his father tells him about the trams and stuff was great but do we need this big rise up?, its fucking batman, show me someone who knows who bruce wayne is and doesnt know about his parents getting shot. say what you will about tim burtons batman, and i think it rocks still, but that showed batman how he should have started out. a boogeyman, a shadow. it was like a comic book come to life. batman begins had the chance to show him as the super hero he is, the worlds greatest detective, and instead we get a ninja. it just felt off to me.
    I reckon i would have to say my favourite super hero origins on film are tony stark in iron man, peter parker in spiderman and clark kent in superman. and i know supermans origin is easily more famous than batman, but supermans is like a the closest thing popculture has to mythology, its one of those stories that warranted telling as more than a plot device to get him to become the superhero in the third act. the story of the last son of krypton really did warrant telling the way it did. but for batman you need to show him as the guy who tracks down criminals as well as fights them. they always say batmans greatest strength is his mind, not his martial arts and we dont see that much in the flicks really and it kinda sucks.

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    The detective work made up a HUGE portion of TDK. Maybe you should watch it again. It's definitely the most detective work done in a batman film to date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    The detective work made up a HUGE portion of TDK. Maybe you should watch it again. It's definitely the most detective work done in a batman film to date.
    aside from the testing to rebuild the bullet it all felt like it was trying to be like a bond film. or homaging something like the bat-radar. though like i said, great flick but he still seemed like he was just using his money to get all his wonderful toys.

    where from?, no one knows.


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    Are you asking where he gets his gadgets? Wayne Enterprises and Lucious Fox. Was this not obvious?....

    As for the detective work....there is much more than just the bullet thing. Bruce doing work during the day before the hospital bombing, radiated bills, studying Dent and joker in the new batcave, stakeout on LSI Holdings(japan) with Fox, developing the Sonar(not seen but hinted at), etc etc. Quite a bit of work compared to all films that have come before.
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