In adult films, condom question looms large

[Chic Freak]

While not fussed either way about whether I see a johnnie on a chap's winky in a porno, I can see how having more condoms in porn might have a beneficial effect. HOWEVER - I also get immediately cautious, because you're in similar territory to the whole nonsense about smoking in movies - how some freaks want a flick like Casablanca to be rated 18 because there's smoking in it. I'd think that real-life situations would have more influence over whether anyone smokes or doesn't smoke, e.g. isn't it the case that those from smoking households are more likely to smoke themselves? That is true, but when it comes to sex, most people don't have real-life examples to look at because they don't see people having sex anywhere except in porn. Regardless of whether porn has an unwanted but unavoidable inherent responsibility to set a good example to its viewers with the use of condoms, it is true that not using a condom can lead to several deaths in the adult industry (as has sadly happened before). It doesn't happen often, but how many times constitutes "enough" to warrant change? It is a tragedy that could easily be avoided by the simple use of condoms. Whereas acting alongside someone who has to smoke a cigarette in a scene will do no worse for you than make your clothes smell I've had to puff away at cigarettes and cigars before to get a certain shot but I'd never risk unprotected sex (even if I did do that sort of work, which I don't, btw! ). You see, that's another thing, a lot of porn is circumcised porn ... although amateur porn can be anything ... indeed, thinking about it, surely amateur porn is, in a weird way, better for teenagers to consume (instead of professional porn), as the people in amateur porn are usually normal people of all shapes, sizes, looks, and indeed cut or uncut downstairs. Could be! Sort of like using "real" girls to model clothes in magazines to help stop teenage girls thinking they're fat. Do you think boys feel pressurised to get circumcised because of porn? I think female circumcision does 'pip' male circumcision at the post easily though, as wasn't that practice kind of a 'male dominance' thing? Power over women and all that ... plus the complications ... Yes, and you can speak in the present tense because it is still going on right now- millions of girls around the world every year are circumcised against their will Traditionally, the father is supposed to have his daughter's clitoris removed and her labia sewn together while she is still a child, to prevent her from having sex as a teenager, and then when she gets married, her husband is supposed to open it up again on their wedding night. It is openly intended to dominate and control women and pass them from one owner to another like cattle, and as you can imagine, the rates of infection are high *getting upset* Indeed, apparently an uncut knob has more sensitivity - because of the foreskin movement, or something like that ... I think I saw that on Channel 5. Yeah I think the glans is more sensitive because being sheathed most of the time prevents it from kind of toughening up.

[SRP76]

No thank you to having a "natural" dick. A flap of skin rolled over the head would be uncomfortable as hell. Just thinking of that disgusting feeling gives me chills. And on the topic, condoms in porn won't accomplish anything. People who use rubbers will, and people who don't like them won't. Doesn't matter if they see someone else using them. If they refuse to use them when their women DEMAND it, they sure as hell aren't going to do it just because they see some fool named "Larry Slapnuts" wearing one in a flick.

[darth los]

I know that. But the fantasy has to be created in the real, concrete world, and as such health and safety needs to be observed, the same as in any other workplace. No-one is saying that you shouldn't fantasise about not using condoms. I'm saying that the actors and models in hard adult movies/ photos are medically at risk if they don't use them. It's a sad fact of life. Imo, adults who are of sound mind who are INFORMED (key word there) about what they are getting into and the risks involved should be able to do whatever they want, that includes drugs and yes sex. Whether it's heterosexual, homosexual, unprotected or protected, or whther it's pay for play. If two consenting adults choose to engage in an act who is anyone to tell them not to. The fact that others might take what they do and perpetuate it is not their fault or responsibility.

[MinionZombie]

Could be! Sort of like using "real" girls to model clothes in magazines to help stop teenage girls thinking they're fat. Do you think boys feel pressurised to get circumcised because of porn? Don't know about pressurised to be circumcised, but I guess it could have an affect on male perceptions. It shouldn't though, as the idea is for the foreskin to retract ... although, thinking about it, if a chick can have an over-sized clitoris (*ahem* Clerks 2 *cough* ), then a dude could have a ... well ... bigger turtle neck ... ... could that cause a problem? Blimey, this is a weird old thread ... I'd have never thought, when I woke up this morning, that I'd be contemplating the above thought ... my mind works in mysterious ways. No thank you to having a "natural" dick. A flap of skin rolled over the head would be uncomfortable as hell. Just thinking of that disgusting feeling gives me chills. I can categorically confirm that an uncut wang is not in the slightest bit uncomfortable. Indeed, I'd have thought that a cut knob would feel weird, at least at first ... referring back to Chic's "toughening up" comment ... I'd imagine, say if an 18 year old had themselves cut, they'd feel really weird and perhaps a bit uncomfortable, with a newly exposed helmet rubbing all over the inside of their undercrackers. I've just thought as well, the 'ant eater' or 'turtle neck' could actually be quite beneficial in a tricky zipper situation. What would you rather get caught in a zipper? The turtle neck, or the helmet? Well, you'd prefer neither, but well ... for sake of argument ... ... I'd go with turtle neck ... indeed I have to say I did once get my todd johnson stuck in my zipper - gave me a cold chill of a shock ... not like in There's Something About Mary, I hasten to add ... but it drew blood. *shudders*

[SRP76]

Indeed, I'd have thought that a cut knob would feel weird, at least at first Most of us wouldn't know. It's done soon after birth, when you remember nothing. I can't speak for everyone, but if it weren't done at that point, I personally would never have it done. Nobody is getting anything sharp anywhere near my dick, regardless of reason. That's the one area of the body that doesn't need to experience any pain. I'm probably not alone on that.

[bassman]

Most of us wouldn't know. It's done soon after birth, when you remember nothing. I can't speak for everyone, but if it weren't done at that point, I personally would never have it done. Nobody is getting anything sharp anywhere near my dick, regardless of reason. That's the one area of the body that doesn't need to experience any pain. I'm probably not alone on that. That's what I was saying earlier. If I was never circumsized as a baby, I would just NEVER be. No way in hell I could put myself through such trauma. I mean....I'm sure they give you something for it and it doesnt hurt all that bad, but just the thought is enough to make me get the shivers. That's why I was so surprised when an old friend told me he was going to have it done at the age of 17.

[darth los]

That's the one area of the body that doesn't need to experience any pain. And to think some people actually pay to have stuff like that done to them !

[Exatreides]

Actually their can be some benefits to circumcision. I was born with Hypospadiais(SP) Thanks to dad being a Vietnam vet and Agent orange getting handed down to me. Well basically my urethra wasn't fully developed down there and ended up coming out the side. Well, they used the tissue from my circumcision to help make everything perfect down their. Nothing like a two day old dick job to set you up for life. Combined with the fact that it has been linked to a drastically lower risk of catching HIV then my turtleneck brethren. Not having to worry about hygiene as much when I'm out their on the battlefield. Although I imagine it could be a nice place to store snacks or hide important documents.

[krakenslayer]

No thank you to having a "natural" dick. A flap of skin rolled over the head would be uncomfortable as hell. Just thinking of that disgusting feeling gives me chills. Having a foreskin doesn't feel like anything. You literally don't feel it. In fact, it protects the head from discomfort and unwanted "stimulation" that would occur by rubbing/chafing while wearing rough fabrics, sitting in the back of a shaking/vibrating vehicle, etc. There was one guy at my school who had a circumcision (the ONLY guy, as far as I know, that had one) when he was a baby for medical reasons as his foreskin was too tight at birth. His name was Willy, which was approriate as he once got an involuntary erection in PE and never lived it down, but he used to say the doctor told him it was because he had no foreskin to prevent him getting "stroked" by tight-fitting underwear and whatnot, and apparently he had major problems with embarrassing boners for years. That's anecodtal evidence obviously, and I don't know how much of that was just him being a gross, filthy, disgusting teenager and how much of it was down to his circumcision, but that always stuck with me...

[JDFP]

There was one guy at my school who had a circumcision (the ONLY guy, as far as I know, that had one) when he was a baby for medical reasons as his foreskin was too tight at birth. His name was Willy, which was approriate as he once got an involuntary erection in PE and never lived it down, but he used to say the doctor told him it was because he had no foreskin to prevent him getting "stroked" by tight-fitting underwear and whatnot, and apparently he had major problems with embarrassing boners for years. That's anecodtal evidence obviously, and I don't know how much of that was just him being a gross, filthy, disgusting teenager and how much of it was down to his circumcision, but that always stuck with me... You know, Kraken, the thing that disturbs me the most about the above information is the fact that you just happen to know all this about dear ol' Willy. How is it that you know this information exactly? "Hey Willy, what's up with jr.?" Not exactly a regular conversation I strike up with my drinking buddies at my bar: "Hey Bill, pass me that pitcher, and by the way, are you circumcised?" j.p.

[DjfunkmasterG]

But what they are selling is a fantasy. No way would the average joe be able to sleep with that many hot women. This allows a man to look and masturbate over as many pieces of ass as he wants. And I'm sorry if a condom is not a part of that fantasy, because honestly, they suck. (Yes, yes i know, and so does having hiv.) But the get in the way and annoy me in real life and it doesn't change any in my fantasy. I'll bet dollars to donuts that it stops alot of men from cheating as well. Yeah, you might want to cheat on the missus but after i watch porn and rub one out all those thought go out the window. All i want is and sandwich and to roll over and go to sleep. So... potentially relationship ruining event averted ! Now that's a public service. !! Never thought of it quite like that... Good point. Although, on the other side of the fence would argue it leads to all of which you say it does not, and leads to rape... The rape thing boggles me because after rubbing one out most men go flaccid and end up going to sleep. I know I do... And before anyone jumps in about my masturbating habits some of you showed your cards pretty early on. I am only chiming in on page 3 at best.

[krakenslayer]

You know, Kraken, the thing that disturbs me the most about the above information is the fact that you just happen to know all this about dear ol' Willy. How is it that you know this information exactly? "Hey Willy, what's up with jr.?" Not exactly a regular conversation I strike up with my drinking buddies at my bar: "Hey Bill, pass me that pitcher, and by the way, are you circumcised?" j.p. Haha, yeah. This started when we were about 13 - there was a rumour that he was circumcised and subsequently that he was Jewish (both extremely rare in rural Scotland), so I guess eventually someone asked him and he openly admitted to being the former but not the latter. He got some minor ribbing at the time but it soon died off until about a year later, when boner-gate took place and everyone started calling him gay (he was trying to disguise an obvious lob-on in a changing room full of half-clothed guys) and he afterwards swore on his life it was all the fault of his lack of foreskin causing his "other head" to rub unprotected against his underwear causing a result that (he said) happened to him all the time.

[bassman]

Is it uncommon to see other mens' packages? I don't know about where everyone else is, but it's a regular thing around gyms and locker rooms in my neck of the woods . Or if they get really trashed and end up doing something stupid while naked. I guess everyone is too uptight these days to have a skinny dip with friends while camping?

[JDFP]

I guess everyone is too uptight these days to have a skinny dip with friends while camping? Which friends do you hang out with, Bassman? No, I couldn't resist... j.p.

[bassman]

Great movie, btw.... I guess i'm just old fashioned that way. It's not like i'm frequently nude around my friends, but the rare times it happens it's not even an issue. As long as you aren't staring at their crotch it's all okay. Besides, any and every adult has seen all of the private areas before. You've seen one, you've seen them all.