'The Hobbit' - Yes! Yes! Yes!

[Neil]

Now how exactly was LOTR not a hollywood movie? It was made by Peter Jackson (a self made director), with his own group of people, with his own effects house, 15 billion miles away from Hollywood So many people contributed pationately, in so many ways to those films, at just so many levels, its just not what you'd typically get in Hollywood...

[clanglee]

Funded by a major Hollywood studio, Involving many hollywood executives and actorsand staff. I'm sorry. . I understand what you are trying to say when you say "Hollywood Movie" , maybe I get tied up in the semantics of it, but LOTR was a WELL DONE big budget Hollywood movie. I don't know, looking at it again, I can see where you are coming from. I have that american thinking type tho "we paid for it, we own it" If that makes me a prick, well so be it. But while it was creatively a New Zeland Movie, LOTR was a funded and marketed American movie.

[Neil]

Funded by a major Hollywood studio, Involving many hollywood executives and actorsand staff. I'm sorry. . I understand what you are trying to say when you say "Hollywood Movie" , maybe I get tied up in the semantics of it, but LOTR was a WELL DONE big budget Hollywood movie. I don't know, looking at it again, I can see where you are coming from. I have that american thinking type tho "we paid for it, we own it" If that makes me a prick, well so be it. But while it was creatively a New Zeland Movie, LOTR was a funded and marketed American movie. When I say 'Hollywood' I mean the style and ethos behind it. Yes, Hollywood money funded it, but the creative team behind the trilogy, and most importantly the resultant films, were not what I'd describe as 'Hollywood' Imagine for example if Michael Bay had done them...

[clanglee]

Imagine for example if Michael Bay had done them... Good Point

[Mike70]

Imagine for example if Michael Bay had done them... dear god that would've been a travesty. interesting thing about the LOTR - having read all of tolkien's letters, it is amazing to find out just how much of it was "off the cuff", made up as he went along and not thought out under some grand plan. the things made up on the fly include major points like aragorn, lothlorien, fangorn, the stewards of gondor and saruman. from a letter to w.h. auden 7 Jun 1955 "...but i met a lot of things on the way that astonished me. tom bombadil i knew already; but i had never been to bree. strider sitting in the corner at the inn was a shock, and i had no more idea who he was than frodo. the mines of moria had been a mere name; and of lothlorien no word reached my mortal ears till i came there. far away i knew there were horse-lords on the confines of an ancient kingdom of men, but fangorn forest was an unforeseen adventure. i had never heard of the house of eorl nor of the stewards of gondor. most disquieting of all, saruman had never been revealed to me, and i was as mystified as frodo at gandalf's failure to appear on september 22." from "the letters of J.R.R. Tolkien" pages 216-217.