View Poll Results: After death, will you move on to another existance?

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Thread: Life After Death

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    It's just a physical trait (habit) some people have that drives me nuts.
    I agree in day-to-day life I usually want to tell people to just gargle with some water and clear their throat, but for some reason I found it entrancing in the video, but maybe I was just distracted by my own mortality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike70 View Post
    i am an annihilationist. i am of the opinion that it is fade to black time and i certainly hope that is the case. eternity is a long, long time. i have no desire to be "immortal" in either body or soul. everything lives out its time in this universe then dies, i think that is probably one of those immutable laws of nature that there is no way around. i can deal with mortality just fine and the fact that one day i will not exist and everything that was me will be gone, only to live on in my children and their descendants. i need not "soothe" myself with hollow stories for 4 year olds about heaven nor do i find solace in the idea of "meeting" loved ones who have preceded me in death. that is why it is important to show/tell people that you care about them while you have the chance.

    i am convinced that the only reason most religions exist is because most humans simply cannot handle to fact that one day they will die.
    Mike, I've read your comment a couple of times now and have to say something! It's a very good comment!
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Mike, I've read your comment a couple of times now and have to say something! It's a very good comment!
    thanks. i think the only reason that religions and, by extention, discussions like this exist is because of the simple fear of death and the unknown. I usually hate reductionism in all its forms but i think religion is one of those few things that you can boil right down. there's nothing deep or complex about religion or theology. the whole "philosophy" of it that so much bullshit has been dedicated to over the centuries is all about 1mm deep as logic and reason go. it is manifestly about and based upon fear

    i see no reason to fear. at least i don't unless i die after ep.4 of a 7 part miniseries that i really want to see the end of...
    Last edited by Mike70; 18-Jan-2012 at 04:08 PM. Reason: d
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    I don't have much to say other than Mike gave an eloquent answer to the question that I could not agree more with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike70 View Post
    thanks. i think the only reason that religions and, by extention, discussions like this exist is because of the simple fear of death and the unknown. I usually hate reductionism in all its forms but i think religion is one of those few things that you can boil right down. there's nothing deep or complex about religion or theology. the whole "philosophy" of it that so much bullshit has been dedicated to over the centuries is all about 1mm deep as logic and reason go. it is manifestly about and based upon fear

    i see no reason to fear. at least i don't unless i die after ep.4 of a 7 part miniseries that i really want to see the end of...
    That's certainly one way of looking at death/religion. I disagree - but I do agree that I'd say a majority of many people view religion and death in the same way. For many people religion is a type of "comfort" concerning the issue of death - something I don't personally understand at all or get on any type of level. I think boiling religious ideology down to the issue of "death" is false - though I freely admit many folks certainly have this intrinsic fear I don't share with them and thus try to find solace in some form of religious faith. It would be premature to label anyone who follows religious convictions into this camp though - I could give two shits what happens to me or whether there is or is not an afterlife after all this which surrounds us. And I know many other folks who feel the same way - but then again, perhaps we are a minority after all.

    I'd completely disagree with the matter that there's nothing "deep" (of course that word can be defined in so many ways we'd have to do reductionism again) regarding religious ideology/convictions - though I also freely admit many follow these out of inclinations of fear. So, it's a natural outlook to have when you witness so much of this around you.

    I agree 100% with you in that I see no reason to fear at all - when I'm dead I'm dead, shit happens, finis, the end. If and when (or when not) something or nothing happens after all this - it's, again, silly in discussing in any form or fashion.

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    i've always found this verse from a pink floyd tune interesting:

    Life is a short, warm moment
    And death is a long cold rest.
    You get your chance to try in the twinkling of an eye:
    Eighty years, with luck, or even less.
    ah well, it might not even matter. the nature of the universe is pixelated and holographic. if the holographic principle of mathematics applies to the 'verse itself, then we are all merely projections from the edge of the universe... and if quantum state immortality is true, none of this shit matters.
    Last edited by Mike70; 21-Jan-2012 at 07:42 PM. Reason: d
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