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    2100yr old computer - Kinda wierd really...

    I've seen this thing mentioned a number of times over the years - the Antikythera Mechanism. It was pulled up from an old Roman ship wreck in 1901. On examination, the encrusted mechanism appeared to made up of dozens of cogs.

    What was it used for? Research seems to imply it was used for astronomical and calendar functions. Enter a date and it would calculate the position of the sun, moon and planets etc...



    The real question is how such an analogue computer was on a roman vessel over 2000 years ago! When nothing else like it was seen until well over a thousand years later...

    And what else was around that we didn't know of!

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7533457.stm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism
    http://www.antikythera-mechanism.com/

    Here's a reconstruction of the unit...

    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Fit for another Indiana Jones adventure, I'd wager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Fit for another Indiana Jones adventure, I'd wager.
    Prepares for 'Indiana Jones and Kingdom of the Windup Music Boxes'...
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Or Indiana Jones and the Radioactive Fridge?

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    actually a study of it using x-ray tomography was just done and a report released (which i will look for in a minute and post). they found the names of all 12 months and the names of the 4 major panhellenic games (olympic, pythian, isthmian, nemean) on it. it now appears that it was a calendar used to calculate the appropriate time for holding the games. in addition to that it also appears it could've been used to calculate solar eclipses.

    here's a link:

    http://http://www.iht.com/articles/2...y/computer.php
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    Quote Originally Posted by scipio70 View Post
    actually a study of it using x-ray tomography was just done and a report released (which i will look for in a minute and post). they found the names of all 12 months and the names of the 4 major panhellenic games (olympic, pythian, isthmian, nemean) on it. it now appears that it was a calendar used to calculate the appropriate time for holding the games. in addition to that it also appears it could've been used to calculate solar eclipses.

    here's a link:

    http://http://www.iht.com/articles/2...y/computer.php
    Read first link in OP

    Quite stunning really! Amazed it lasted 2000 years under the sea!
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Read first link in OP
    duh! sorry bout that.
    "The bumps you feel are asteroids smashing into the hull."

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    This kind of freaks me out. I don't understand how someone could think up something so intricate and incredible that long ago... yet NOTHING of the sorts came after, until thousands of years later.

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    It is basically a 2000 year old Rolex. I bet ol' Lucius wanted to make sure he got back from his voyage in time for the javelin event (and the orgy that happened afterwards).

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlish View Post
    I bet ol' Lucius wanted to make sure he got back from his voyage in time for the javelin event (and the orgy that happened afterwards).
    After all, necessity is the mother of invention. (And what a bastard child it is.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    The real question is how such an analogue computer was on a roman vessel over 2000 years ago! When nothing else like it was seen until well over a thousand years later...
    Isn't it obvious? A time traveler tried to jumpstart the Industrial Revolution by a couple thousand years, made a good go of it, but his plans were thwarted when the ship he was on went down in a storm.
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    If the roman empire hadnt collapsed & plunged the world into the dark ages for centuries,we would probably be far more advanced than we are now!I think its fair to say theres nothing strange about them having that device,they were a clever civilisation and even now we're still the same human beings as they were,our brains havent evolved,we've just learned from hundreds of years of discoveries,mistakes & inventions to make us what we are now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    If the roman empire hadnt collapsed & plunged the world into the dark ages for centuries,we would probably be far more advanced than we are now!I think its fair to say theres nothing strange about them having that device,they were a clever civilisation and even now we're still the same human beings as they were,our brains havent evolved,we've just learned from hundreds of years of discoveries,mistakes & inventions to make us what we are now
    Don't forget this device came from the Greeks. It was probably more advanced than anything the Romans could produce.

    Maybe they wanted to take it back home to understand it. Imagine if it had got there (instead of the boat sinking) and they'd worked it out... Could of moved the Roman technology on a lot and changed the course of history!
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    have you ever heard of heron of alexandria? he was a greek engineer and scientist in the 1st cent. AD. he invented the first steam turbine/steam engine, the first automatic doors and the first coin operated vending machines, among many, many other inventions and discoveries.

    this is a pic of replica of his steam turbine:



    funny thing is, this was considered a novelty in his lifetime. it was something he used to wow guests/visitors at parties. no one, not even heron, made the connection that with a little tweaking this machine, which was literally 1,700 years ahead of its time, would've been capable of great things.
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