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    British ISPs Ordered to Block The Pirate Bay

    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...e-bay-blocked/

    I don't know about you, but I'd never stand for this.

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    The web is going to be shite in a few years time. Dull as dishwater.

    It'll be just another advertising "service". A cash cow for wankers, that are already too rich to know what to do with themselves.

    Old farts will be looking back at "the golden age of the internet".
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/201...e-bay-blocked/

    I don't know about you, but I'd never stand for this.
    Surely other domains or methods will just pop up that still arrive at pirate bay's door, just via different routes...
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    Neil, it's the principle. Is this a free country? Is the internet not free? Or? Is the west becoming China?

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    Seems more like a case of money and lawyers talking directly to the UK ISPs ... I read t'other day that any actual decisions or work on piracy has been shelved until 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    Neil, it's the principle. Is this a free country? Is the internet not free? Or? Is the west becoming China?
    Hey, you can't deny 99% of the traffic for ThePirateBay is dealing with illegal file sharing?

    If ThePirateBay was a guy at a car boot sale, selling thousands of illegal copies of films, there'd be no qualms about him being arrested. But just because the provider is hidden by the anonymity of the internet, it shouldn't lessen the crime surely!?

    Hey, I'm just as 'guilty' as others, but I can see something needs to be done. Don't know what the answer is though!
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    I strongly disagree with you, Neil. That's all I can say. I think restrictions like this, any kind of restrictions, are f*cked up and a taste of things to come.

    This is a huge leap for the law to take, but the leap to the next site being banned isn't as big. And then the next one. And the next one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    The web is going to be shite in a few years time. Dull as dishwater.

    It'll be just another advertising "service". A cash cow for wankers, that are already too rich to know what to do with themselves.

    Old farts will be looking back at "the golden age of the internet".
    Yep, aside from the file sharing issue the UK papers have also got their knickers in a twist over porn on the internet as well, especially the Daily Mail, and are leading a campaign to try and ban all access to it from every computer and smart phone in the land to try and stop kids seeing it. Now I totally agree that kids shouldnt be seeing it, but should that not be the responsibilty of parents to control and monitor what their kids are viewing, rather than an outright ban for responsible adults?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    Yep, aside from the file sharing issue the UK papers have also got their knickers in a twist over porn on the internet as well, especially the Daily Mail, and are leading a campaign to try and ban all access to it from every computer and smart phone in the land to try and stop kids seeing it. Now I totally agree that kids shouldnt be seeing it, but should that not be the responsibilty of parents to control and monitor what their kids are viewing, rather than an outright ban for responsible adults?
    I think the Daily Mail got a bit carried away with it, YouGov asked:

    Some people think that customers should have to choose to have their internet service filtered (an opt-in service), other people think that internet services should all be filtered unless customers ask for their service to be unfiltered (an opt-out service)

    Opt-in (someone's internet service should only be filtered if they ask for it) 57% in support

    Opt-out (people's internet service should be filtered unless they ask for it not to be) 36% in support

    Don't know 8%
    Apparently two thirds do back blocking, but only when users ask for it themselves (which makes sense, otherwise it's just censorship). However I'd imagine those proposing any legislation would rather see opt-in, because you know they watch porn online too, haha ... they wouldn't want to block their own access!

    Better education for parents is the key - I remember back when I was in high school you had 11 year olds working their way around the security software and putting porn on the entire network - beating a 50+ year old IT teacher, and indeed beating the company that put the network in place originally, haha! More efficient and more resilient software is required to be used by those in charge (teachers/parents). It's simple really - it's the same thing with videogames, you've got Keith-fucking-Vaz mouthing off again about Call of Duty in the press (claiming that Anders Breivik used "Modern Warfare" ... erm, which MW, Vaz? ... as a training tool and therefore it's to blame ), and you've got many parents that just don't know about videogame ratings (unbelievable really seeing as they, until this summer anyway, have BBFC ratings on them that are no different to movies ... however in a couple of months they're going over to PEGI exclusively, and apparently there'll be a campaign to try and educate parents).

    I do recall how I was bought games like Carmageddon, and Duke Nukem 3D by my folks - they knew full-well they were rated 18, but they also knew I was watching certain 18 rated movies and the content of the games didn't seem to be all that different from some of the movies I was watching at the time (Aliens, Terminator, The Fly ... flicks like that).

    So if parents really are concerned, then they have to educate themselves - but clearly there is a bit of a gap that's still being filled - by which I mean, computers have just always been for kids today, but not necessarily for their parents. However in a few years time, almost all parents will be computer savvy ... relatively speaking anyway ... there's a bunch of people using computers that have no clue how to secure them properly, but the gap should shrink at least.

    As in all things, education is the key.

    Sliding a bit off topic technically, but thought I'd just go off on a tangent with what you were saying Trickster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I strongly disagree with you, Neil. That's all I can say. I think restrictions like this, any kind of restrictions, are fucked up and a taste of things to come.

    This is a huge leap for the law to take, but the leap to the next site being banned isn't as big. And then the next one. And the next one.
    So you're suggesting a method which allows anyone to download copyright material at the press of a button, and the method will only get more and more comon place, should just be left to its own devices?

    As I've said before, I'm somewhat 'guilty', but even as it stands it's too easy to use these sites, and will only get easier unless something is done.

    I was sitting somewhere yesterday, and no joke, heard prison guards talking about download a particular movie, which I know has not been released here yet... This thing is now so common place, and seen as so-the-norm, you even get people life prison guards openly discussing illegal activity
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    Yep, aside from the file sharing issue the UK papers have also got their knickers in a twist over porn on the internet as well, especially the Daily Mail, and are leading a campaign to try and ban all access to it from every computer and smart phone in the land to try and stop kids seeing it. Now I totally agree that kids shouldnt be seeing it, but should that not be the responsibilty of parents to control and monitor what their kids are viewing, rather than an outright ban for responsible adults?
    it's not just the daily mail doing it, they're all (media) wading into the debate and trying to create scandal around this subject, as well as internet piracy...they're also doing it with "internet trolls" as they are referred to.

    They're basically trying to give us an internet worthy of China.

    Last time this country saw government interference like this? oh yeah...last time the Tories were in power.
    Innocent victims of merciless crimes, fall prey to some madman's impulsive designs.

    Step after step we try controlling our fate. When we finally start living, it's become too late.

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    I've always thought Pirate Bay was shit/sketchy anyway.

    The only times I've gotten warnings from the MPAA was by using Pirate Bay.

    There are plenty of private torrent sites out there that are way better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    Yep, aside from the file sharing issue the UK papers have also got their knickers in a twist over porn on the internet as well, especially the Daily Mail, and are leading a campaign to try and ban all access to it from every computer and smart phone in the land to try and stop kids seeing it. Now I totally agree that kids shouldnt be seeing it, but should that not be the responsibilty of parents to control and monitor what their kids are viewing, rather than an outright ban for responsible adults?
    Didn't the Daily Mail run a campaign during the video nasties farce in the 80's. Honestly, a campaign should be run to ban the Daily Mail.

    Thank god Whitehouse is dead.

    Pity Graham Bright isn't, although I'm sure that there are other conservative fools ready to bite down hard for this.

    It's a slippery slope that begins with the usual old maidish tropes...nudity and violence.
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    to be honest my first thought was 'people still use pirates bay'?


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    Neil, it's the principle. Is this a free country? Is the internet not free? Or?
    By your logic I should be able to just walk into your house and take anything I want. It's a free country, right?

    Only thieves are crying over the pirate bay.

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