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    Silent Hill... Can anyone explain the ending to me...

     
    So were the mother and daughter just dead... That just seemed too obvious! Or was there a more intelligent thing in there I missed


    I felt a little let down by the end sort of!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil
     
    So were the mother and daughter just dead... That just seemed too obvious! Or was there a more intelligent thing in there I missed


    I felt a little let down by the end sort of!
    Here is my take:

     
    They could be dead or they could be still in the limbo dimension . The movie demonstrates that the demon can go from it's dimension to the limbo dimension as well as the world as we know it (when she dropped the baby off at the orphanage). Whether they are dead or in the limbo world doesn't really make much difference to me, and neither does the fact that it is ambiguous. I do believe that the demon entered her daughter at the end of the church scene and was in her daughter at the very end. BTW - I liked the demon character a lot actually.

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    As with the games you can never really figure out what you missed regarding the characters fate.

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    Aye, I've literally just finished watching the film and I too had no idea what that ending was about, such ambiguity pisses me off ... could have been a bit shorter though, I got to 90 minutes and gasped because there was still 30 left to go!

    It was a pretty decent flick, best video game adap I've seen, but had it been shorter and punchier it would have felt less like "people walk around looking scared/confused in one location after another, intermittently stepping in and out of the demon world" ... that's how I felt anyway.

    Hmmm ... 5 or 6 out of 10.

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    if you use the search engine i posted a long post a while ack about the plot of silent hills games, that might help, and i can sit here all smug knowing the answer to something you dont


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    I take it as they are still in the fog plain, and the child demon took over the daughters from as she wanted a "mommy"

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    My take on it is that they died in the wreck which would explain how the husband senced her spirit when he went searching for her in the town. I thought it was so so sad.
    Just a little trivia. She played also in Pitch Black

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    Guys,

    Its not hiding any of your spoilers. You do not have to highight to read, they are all in plain view.
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    not to be a dick. but given the topic heading, what do you expect?

    I think it's safe to assume that your going to get spoilers in this thread. So continue to read at your own risk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p2501 View Post
    not to be a dick. but given the topic heading, what do you expect?

    I think it's safe to assume that your going to get spoilers in this thread. So continue to read at your own risk.
    I have already seen Silent Hill (I will withold my personal feelings on the film, being a fan of the games) and am not too worried about the spoilers.

    I was simply stating that because, apparently, folks were posting under the assumption that the spoilers were being hidden, obviously something isn't working quite right with that feature.

    I was putting that there for others.

    Maybe the original poster (Neil) could edit the subject line to state that there are spoilers in the thread.
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    ooh! Just had When Games Attack on just now, and they had Silent Hill 2 as one of their top five worst game plots ... anyway, here is what happened!!

     
    It appears the Mrs did die in the car crash - although how I don't know, a bit of a bump on the noggin and you die, b'ave - anyway, that is what seems to have happened - in Silent Hill 2 it appears you are the husband who goes in search of his Mrs, but turns out he's a nutjob and he's imagining it all ... or something - anyway, blondie died in the car apparently, but what about the kid?

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    Spoilers are hidden now!!!!

    Yay!

    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    if you use the search engine i posted a long post a while ack about the plot of silent hills games, that might help, and i can sit here all smug knowing the answer to something you dont
    You should try to find that post!

    Hellsing wrote up a great explanation of the games.

    Edit: Never mind, I found it here:

    in the first game harry , played by rose in the movie, is driving to silent hill with his adopted daughter who he found on the side of the road.. or in a field its not sepcific.
    they see a police officer on a motorbike ,drive on and see the bike on its side on the curb then a woman appears in the cars path they swerve and crash, harry comes to adn cheryl is gone he heads off into the town there in "silent hill" to find her he discovers the town is infested with monsters and is steeped in a mystical and occult history.


    heres the timeline leading to silent hill 1

    before 16th c - native americans conduct rituals here. this land is valued as a sacred place in native american religion.

    1607 - england began colonising north america

    late 1600's - colonists begin to move to silent hill

    1692 - salem witch trials in massechuttas

    early 1700's - a mysterious plague breaks out and the town is abandoned

    1776 - u.s declaration of independance

    1789 - george washington elected

    around 1810 - the war of 1812 begins
    silent hill is resettled as a penal colony. silent hill prison and brookhaven hospital is built

    1820 -maine becomes a state
    allen smith paints waterfront landscape

    1830 - forced removal policy for native americans

    1840 - silent hill prison closes

    1850 - a coal feild is discovered and wilse coal mine opens. which leads to the activation of the town.

    1861 - out break of the civil war
    chester and his son both participate in the war

    1862 - toluca prison camp is constructed for POW's

    1865 - culmination of the civil war

    1866 - the prison camp is converted into toluca prison

    1890 - end of native americans organsied resistance
    people start to dissappear all over town

    early 1900's - toluca prison is closed and the town becomes a tourist resort.

    1918 - a tours ship called the little baroness goes missing

    1939 - strang events at toluca lake

    19xx - the town mayor dies suddenyl and key members of the towns development die accidental deaths.

    well that the ''known'' timeline, but harry finds out other secret things ,as well as the mosnters.

    heres what the book says about the events in the time line that relate to silent hill.

    FOLK LORE: 'sacred ground were native americans conducted mysterious rituals' before settlers came from europe, silent hill was a holy place, even then the land seemed to hold a sacred power.

    they revered the town as "the place of silent spirits" .however they were driven away by settlers and abandoned the town.

    PRISON: after the outbreak of a plague the town is resetlled as a penal colony

    many people lost there lives on this abombnable soil. consequently the town was first used as a penal colony. it was at this time it was first given the name silent hill.

    after the closing of the prison the historical society was built on its former iste. it conveys the towns sense of history

    HELLSINGS NOTE - the executioners at the penal colony wore red triangular hoods, this is a reoccuring theme as im sure you can guess where.

    EPIDEMIC: once more the threat of plague steadily wraps the town in darkness.

    the town was stricken by an epidemic. it may have been that becuase of the unforseen events the towns population as well of the thoughts and feelings of the origional prisoners, the origional power that the town held was gradually distorted.

    the current incarnation of the brookhaven hospital has existed since it became large scale in the late 1800's

    THE CIVIL WAR: the town is drawn into the civil war that devided the nation in two.

    the civil war occured in 1861. the stone statue in the lake is a memorial to patrick lester who fought in the war at this time.

    allthough the conflict was origionally bron from political opposition. it was distorted by future generations. into an issue conerning the birth of the religious cult.

    TOLUCA LAKE: after becomeing a sightseeing area, a series of misfortunes befell the town.

    with the closeing of wiltse coal mine came the reinvention of the town as a tourist resort. however to to a succetion fo boating accidents the town gained a poor reputation as a site seeing area.

    the famous toluca lake is a place of powerful emotions. it is known as an ominous lake that has become completely shrouded in a pervasive mist.

    HELLSINGS NOTE - this location is visited in silent hill 2 and 4 ,but not in 1 or 3.

    well thats the towns real history, not seen the film yet, going to later today so i dont know how truthful it sticks to this, my next post has massive spoilers so ingnore if you dont wanna now the truth if the film confused you.

    [spoilers] ALESSA HISTORY

    20 yeas ago - the development group all die mysterious deaths.

    the staff of a company that was working for the town as a sightseeing are died mysteriously one after the other.
    becuase of the extent of the mysteries surrounding there deahts. it was rumored there was some connection to the towns religion
    it was thought that the deaths overlapped with the towns strange past.

    14 years ago - alessa is born

    in the "nowere" of the first game we get a glimpse of allessas tortured existence.

    12 years ago - cluadia is born

    two years after allesa was bron. both girls parents were of the same faith and both girls were on extremely good terms during there childhood.

    11 years ago - harry (played by rose in the film) wife dies suddenly.

    7 years ago - cheryl is born

    a fire breaks out that destoroys six buildings in the buisness district. it ws arranged so alesssa's body was found at the gallespie house. which was the origin of the fire. however the cause of this fire was a ritual so dahlia could use her daughter and impregnate her with the cults god.

    lisa nursed alessa who brought her back using her powers in conunction with the warped powers of the town.

    dr kauffman prbably replaced the body.

    DRUG CIRCULATION - after the fire in the buisness district a new drug called "ptv" becomes prevalent in the town.
    first a criminal investigator then the mayor of silent hill who was redoubleing efforts to regain control met with mysterious deaths one after the other.

    ptv was circulated among tourists and the town corroded.

    an unseen alliance exists between the hospital and the religious cult.

    HELLSINGS NOTE- it has been thoerized that the ptv or 'white cluadia' either changes or prtoects people from changing into mosnters like the rest of the town supposedl did.

    but this is just a thoery.

    0 events of silent hill - heather is born

    alessa 14 years old at the time, suffered from the burns infliced upon her by the ritual that brought about the decent of the god. in order to escape dahlias control, she calls out to cheryl her 'other half' ,who is 7 years old at the time, to return, due to the power of allessas thoughts the town is trnasformed into the ''otherwolrd'' silent hill.
    in the attmept to rescue his daughter harry (rose) becaomes involed in these events.
    after the two girls become one a new life is born, who harry names heather.

    5 years later - a murder case in portland

    after the events of silent hill harry (rose) took heather away with him, and moved to portland however, her wereabouts were discovered by a cult member who was searching for her.

    harry killed him to protect the secret of heathers wereabouts from the cult.

    ? years later - after dahlias death there was a peroid of inactivity in the cult, after ten years had passed however, it became active once more ,the structure of the organisation was adjusted and there numbers rapidly increased, one young preist (vincent) was behind this renovation

    HELLSINGS NOTE those events and the character claudia all appear in silent hill 3 were heather is now an adult and is taken bakc to the town.

    possible movie sequel?

    the follwing events are here in the timeline but silent hill 2 is set in the 80's ,just to put the series timelin into perspective.

    materialization of delusions - starting with the first game the power that the town holds has gradually intensified. it has reached the point where those who hold darkness in there hearts are drawn to the town, and each of there subconiousness's are manefested as creatures in the town, case in point the red pyramidhead....
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    yes i know, i kick ass, theres pretty mutch nothing about the games i dont know, too bad there isnt a degree in survival horror
    havent actually seen the film yet cus im broke, and what little money i get now and then im saving up for dead rising so its gonna be a while before i see the movie.


    serioulsy i was pissed it was one of my directoral dreams to make a silent hill movie, though if i ever got the chance, and i hope i still do, id mutch rather make on on silent hill 2 cus it was all 80's and rmeinded me of 70's horror or silent hill 4 cus the script practically writes itself, and i know a dude who looks damn near exactly like walter sullivan.


    actually i start my second and final year of college in 9 days so ill get soem EMA money ,nootch!


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    You kids these days ... PAID to go to school! Disgraceful! I went for free to learn stuff I forgot immediately after doing the exam because we're not taught to retain knowledge, only swot for three months and then jizz it all over the paper...

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    next you'll be talkin' about "those damn kids" and hiding pornos in our tool shed, cus thats all blokes over 40 are doing in there, ever remember your dad actually fixing anyhting in there? ......eww


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