Terminator 5 (film)

[Neil]

Seems Arnold is signed up to be in it, with Justin Lin to direct... http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/arno...lin-to-direct/

[MinionZombie]

Seems Arnold is signed up to be in it, with Justin Lin to direct... http://www.deadline.com/2011/04/arno...lin-to-direct/ The title of the thread, where you put "(film)" in at the end made me giggle for some reason. I'm unsurprised The Governator wants to be in it somehow, the dude wants some dosh. As for Justin Lin, didn't he direct Fast Five? I saw that in the cinema t'other day and it's easily the best of the F&F sequels, and it's actually a pretty good action flick with some nicely put together action sequences - so we know he can do that part at least. However, ugh, another Terminator movie that's not got JC on board? T3 was an abomination, and T4 was a hugely wasted opportunity.

[Neil]

^^ Still not watched T4!

[bassman]

^^ Still not watched T4! It's better than T3, but as MZ mentioned, it's definitely not comparible to James Cameron's entries. It's okay for a bit of a mindless viewing and there are some parts that are cool for fans, but at the end of the day it's almost like it could have used a different name. Just not a worthy sequel. Seeing the T-600's(?) with the rubber skin was cool. Those things looked freaky. But on the other hand they have Terminator snakes, which is just silly... Arnold in a new Terminator? I think it's about time he gives that dream up. Will he be chasing John Connor in his "hoveround'?

[krakenslayer]

He directed Tokyo Drift, Fast Five, and Fast & Furious in association with this screenwriter: http://www.theonion.com/video/today-...iter-of,20188/ If they can't get James Cameron to do it, and they absolutely had to make this movie, they should have tried for someone with a history of making smart, stimulating sci-fi (like Duncan Jones or Neill Blomkamp) or at least someone a little offbeat (like Neil Marshall), in order to give the movie either an interesting intellectual, conceptual spin. The great thing about the first two Terminator movies is that they engage the viewer's emotional, intellectual and adrenal systems in equal measure. Terminator 3 has the action and a little bit of the emotion, but is kinda lacking on the grey-cell front. Salvation was almost fun, but totally meatheaded and everything felt like a committee decision, not an artistic vision. This choice of director, now, tells us that the producers are still leaning too heavily in the "action" direction. They see that parts three and four weren't as popular, and think they can fix that by focusing even more on the shaky-cam car chases and such like. They are completely out of touch.

[Neil]

Surely Arnold is just too old now? Why would a terminator look old(er)? Unless he's the human they based it on?

[bassman]

Unless he's the human they based it on? You mean Sargent Candy?

[krakenslayer]

You mean Sargent Candy? I think one of the few good choices in Terminator 3 was made in cutting out that scene Actually, in The Terminator novel series, the outer flesh coverings of the 700 and 800 series Terminators were all grown based on human templates that Skynet had on file either from tissue samples held by Cyberdyne (similar to Marcus in T4) or from resistance fighters captured in combat. The basis for the model 101 exterior (i.e. Arnold) was   a former CIA agent called Dieter von Rossbach, whom the Connors encounter while hiding out in Paraguay after the events of T2. Initially believing him to be a Terminator sent back to get them, Sarah plots to kill him but eventually realises that he is actually a human being, completely oblivious to Skynet, etc. Ultimately, he becomes their ally and a resistance fighter in his own right.

[MoonSylver]

I think one of the few good choices in Terminator 3 was made in cutting out that scene If only they could have figured out a way to cut another 109 minutes from the runtime...

[bassman]

It's funny they cut that scene out while plenty of equally cheesy scenes were left in..... One thing T3 had going for it was a hot Terminator. At least there was something good to look at...

[MoonSylver]

It's funny they cut that scene out while plenty of equally cheesy scenes were left in... Yeah, all of them. One thing T3 had going for it was a hot Terminator. At least there was something good to look at... Yeah, IIRC one of the early ideas from waaaay back for T2 was a female Terminator. I think the idea was for a PAIR (since, y'know it's part TWO, so there's TWO of them...) to come back, presumably a T-101 + the female model.

[krakenslayer]

See, I don't even like the idea of a "sexy" female Terminator. I get that the machine needs some kind of disguise, but a) the design doesn't fit with the angular, oppressively functional/utilitarian design of the rest of the machines and b) the endoskeleton, without the disguise, was still an overly pretty, over-engineered piece of hardware, with blue lights and a pointlessly "aerodynamic" design.

[Eyebiter]

Which route do they take with the Terminator Franchise? Reboot the franchise again? Make a direct sequel to Terminator 2 ignoring T3, T4, and TSCC? Stay with Christian Bale and make a sequel to T4? Or make a low budget movie based on the Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles television series?

[MinionZombie]

Which route do they take with the Terminator Franchise? Reboot the franchise again? Make a direct sequel to Terminator 2 ignoring T3, T4, and TSCC? Stay with Christian Bale and make a sequel to T4? Or make a low budget movie based on the Terminator the Sarah Connor Chronicles television series? Or make some sort of franchise spin-off that examines another area of the mythology entirely, set in another place and time ... ... and most importantly, bring back brains and get rid of this "super Terminator" nonsense. The shit they can do in T3 and T4 would have absolutely ruined one of those endoskeletons from T1 or T2. There's a whole article some fan wrote online somewhere about these "super Terminators" in T3 and T4, which completely ignore the capabilities of the actual machines from the first two movies. Basically, it's just a bunch of dumb shit that some moron wrote into a script without actually paying attention to what T1 and T2 actually were, rather than what their coke-addled few braincells thought they were.

[Neil]

There's a whole article some fan wrote online somewhere about these "super Terminators" in T3 and T4, which completely ignore the capabilities of the actual machines from the first two movies. Basically, it's just a bunch of dumb shit that some moron wrote into a script without actually paying attention to what T1 and T2 actually were, rather than what their coke-addled few braincells thought they were. Sounds spot on (even though I've not seen 4)...