 Originally Posted by Neil
What sort of sound effects are we talking about?
That's an example - in this one, many of the gunshots are all different sound effects - especially that famous shot in the dark office when a cop jumps up from behind a desk and fires and the Terminator fires back with the shotgun, which in the original audio mix had so much grunt and power behind it, it was just really memorable and intimidating - but it's also in other scenes, such as the HKs sounding different, as well as some explosions.
It's kind of hard to explain without having a sit down with you in person and playing scenes from both versions one after the other, but trust me, the audio is quite a bit different on the DVD version I've got, compared to the original audio the film was released with.
That's another example - the lazer fire sounds totally different, and the HK sounds different. Also, towards the end of this clip where the infiltation Terminator starts fire - again - totally different, replaced in the above YouTube clip with a far softer, wimpier sound - before it had some real grunt to it. Also during that infiltration scene, the lazer sounds are different, as well as the explosion.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqRCCZT1Kow
That's an excellent example of the ORIGINAL AUDIO - during the car chase from the parking garage up to when the cops arrest them - and it's a particularly good example of how the shotguns in the film originally sounded - in the DVD I've got, they now actually sound like the pistol Arnie fires during the chase near the end when they go through the tunnel throwing pipe bombs.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXwOUdAyJs
Now, here's the exact same scene - but with the NEW AUDIO - notice the different in the shotgun effect especially. But also note how many of the shotgun effects are almost inaudible, and often get completely trampled by the glass shattering effects towards the end of the sequence.
As you can hear, the original audio is far better than the re-mastered version - and it's like that throughout the entire movie. In fact, the re-mastered audio mix is downright awful at times, and a real spoiler for an otherwise decent DVD presentation. I was gutted when I first watched the DVD and heard the new mix ... ugh ... give me back my proper mono mix!
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That's the final chase scene (part of it anyway), and you'll notice the machine gun is a different sound, as well as the really different sound of the bullets hitting the 4x4, and the pipe bombs exploding, and of course the pistol towards the end of that clip - totally different to what it was originally, plus the wing mirror breaking, and the bike getting smashed up ... and some other effects too I think.
As I said above, the pistol in that chase above originally sounded like the shotgun now sounds like in the re-mastered audio.
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I hope this long-winded explanation, with samples, helps illustrate what I'm on about, and it's not just me that's noticed, many Terminator fans have noticed and even the ones that don't quite know what's different have said "it doesn't sound like I remember it".
I want my mono soundtrack I grew up with back! In fact, I dug out a VHS copy I taped off the TV, so I'll watch that for a trip down memory lane for my ears.
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It looks good, but it's obvious that it's not as good as some others. Let's say....The Dark Knight and The Matrix. Holy fook
Those are probably the best looking BR's I have.
Apparently they're going to be the first BR's to hold so much information or something like that. I've seen a few screens and they look INCREDIBLE.
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