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    ^Dude, those LPs alone contain about 70% of the tracks used in the film!
    I already have some of the individual tracks from those albums from various sources (as you can see from the list I posted, that's the 60 cues I already have), I know I am still missing some tracks from those LP's and I wanted the full LP's to do a proper check/comparison of everything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by See No Evil View Post
    I already have some of the individual tracks from those albums from various sources (as you can see from the list I posted, that's the 60 cues I already have), I know I am still missing some tracks from those LP's and I wanted the full LP's to do a proper check/comparison of everything else.
    Gotcha. It seemed that you posted as having 70% of the full LPs needed, but your want list comprises probably 70% of the LPs actually used.

    It seems that you have too many tracks listed from both World Power and Sounds Unusual, and I still have never found Synchropulse or Once to have been used in any version of DAWN. I also have Coming of the Saucers on the LP Electroshake and haven't spotted it anywhere in the film. Many of the "complete" soundtrack CD cues are composites, so I first would try to clean-up the list of tracks that you already have and eliminate anything that definitely was not used in the film.

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    I'm working this project from both angles, I have noticed a number of people in the past doing DOTD score projects, but I took a slightly different route. I took the audio track from all three version of the film, and edited every single piece of music into it's own WAV file. So I now have full samples of each of the tracks, The european has 55 tracks, the extended 132 and the theatrical 143 (that's not to say 143 separate pieces of music, some pieces are repeated and there would be different parts of the same tracks used also). Each version has an index file (like the one I posted) and each track has it's own listing. Working from this angle means nothing can get missed, if I have any unidentified tracks left over, then I know I haven't identified everything

    That's where I am. At the moment I'm checking off what I music I already have from the 2004 trunk CD, the Zombi Goblin CD, and misc tracks I've picked up here and there, and matching them up. At the end I'll have a list of unidentified tracks to work from, and a full list of identified tracks with timecodes and original artist/title/album/company/refs info.

    (I'm not using the 'complete' 51/66 track 2cd score as those cues have been edited to just what appears in the film and multiple tracks have been edited together so I couldn't get the full original cue tracks from that (for the most part anyway).)

    So I'm working this project from both ends, working through and trying to identify all the samples, and while doing that; trying to get all the tracks and albums I might need, such as getting tracks people have said in the past are used, even if mistakenly just in case (as per the cue sheet) and where I have a track that I know was from a particular album, checking all the other tracks on that album just in case.

    You're right, I don't think 'Synchropulse', 'Once', 'Coming of the Saucers' or 'Electroshake' were used, but I have them all the same. After all the tracks have been identified then I can definitively say what was & wasn't used. From Sounds Unusual, I know the following tracks are used; 'Indictment', 'Action Pack', 'Bravado' & 'Proud Action' (I have checked these) and from World Power; 'Fugarock', 'Scarey 1', 'Scarey 2' & 'Zap!' I know are used (again I've checked) and 'Two Minutes Precisely' I'm not sure on (it was on the cue list).

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    I have managed to get spinechiller from another source, but I still need help with the rest of the albums. I haven't had anyone contact me and haven't heard back from anyone I PM'd.

    I've put a whole heap of work into this project so far but I can't complete it without the missing tracks. Is no one willing to help me out on this?

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    Ok, well this project is almost complete, and I have virtually all the LPs I wanted from other sources. I have already been in contact with Neil/HPOTD websmaster over hosting this project on the HPOTD site once it's complete, but until then I have posted the three track listing files so people can look at them now;

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    I have also posted the working project files online as well;

    http://www.mediafire.com/seenoevil

    Here there are 3 ZIP files. each one has all the sample tracks as MP3 files, along with a track listing text file, and two winamp playlists; one plays all the tracks, one just plays the unidentified tracks.



    I would think once I'm finished, that the list of used library cues would be something over the 100 mark (not including any Goblin or incorrectly listed dawn cue sheet tracks). As far as proper full cues I've still not identified, the list is short! really just three tracks;


    Theatrical Version Missing Tracks

    Track 089B (Misc harp & strings playing over 087A) (Same as below)
    Timecode From = 01:28:29.480
    Timecode To = 01:29:13.919


    Extended version missing tracks

    Track 059 (Solo Flute Cue)
    Timecode From = 00:59:46.840
    Timecode To = 01:01:17.893

    Track 087B (Misc harp & strings playing over 087A) (Same as above)
    Timecode From = 01:37:17.294
    Timecode To = 01:38:01.493


    European version missing tracks

    Track 041 (Mall Musak)
    Timecode From = 01:31:25.974
    Timecode To = 01:32:00.935


    This is the full list of what's left to identify. Out of the 406 edited sample clips over the three versions, there are a total of 31 unidentified, but some of these are the same track repeated multiple times over the three films so in actuality, there are only around 12 cues left to find, but this includes even the shortest few second clips which will be really hard to place;


    Theatrical Version Missing Tracks

    Track 042 (Short drum beat - Same as 043A)
    Track 043A (Short drum beat - Same as 042)
    Track 064B (Killing Krishna zombie piano chord)
    Track 089B (Misc harp & strings playing over 087A)
    Track 099 (Bugle Call - Cavalry Charge - Same as 105)
    Track 105 (Bugle Call - Cavalry Charge - Same as 099)
    Track 120 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 121 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 122 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 124 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 126 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 141 (Cymbal Crash)
    Track 143 (Big Ben/Mall Clock Chimes)


    Extended version missing tracks

    Track 039 (Short drum beat - Same track as 040A)
    Track 040A (Short drum beat - Same track as 039)
    Track 058B (Hitting Krishna zombie piano chord)
    Track 059 (Solo Flute Cue)
    Track 087B (Misc harp & strings playing over 087A)
    Track 096 (Bugle Call - Cavalry Charge - Same as 102)
    Track 102 (Bugle Call - Cavalry Charge - Same as 096)
    Track 114 (Big Ben/Mall Clock Chimes - Same as 131)
    Track 116A (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 118 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 119 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 130A (Cymbal Crash)
    Track 131 (Big Ben/Mall Clock Chimes - Same as 114)


    European version missing tracks

    Track 021 (Krishna cymbals)
    Track 041 (Mall Musak)
    Track 042 (Sounds like Goblin - Zaratozom, but not on CD)
    Track 051 (Big Ben/Mall Clock Chimes)


    I'm still working on this project to get the last tracks but if anyone knows what the missing ones are then please let me know?



    Also, DubiousComforts, cheers for the underlay heads up, Having checked it out there are actually two of the Stringback cues used; No.3 (building the false wall) & No.4 (a few seconds used in the background of one scene in the extended version). I also now have every cue listed in the LivingDead.com old dawn cue sheet, so once I'm finished I will be able to definitively resolve exactly what cues were and were not used once & for all!
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    Quote Originally Posted by See No Evil View Post
    Hi all, haven't posted here in yonks, but I found something on ebay that you all might find interesting. Someone is selling a whole load of De Wolfe Library music records on Ebay some of which contain music used in Dawn Of The Dead (which is interesting enough in itself) They have also uploaded selected full tracks in MP3 format so you can listen to them before you buy. They're fairly high quality (160k). With a little effort you can download the tracks too.

    Looking through some of the long list of records he had for sale I found 9 sample tracks, 7 of which I recognised from dawn.

    If you own the bootleg 'complete' soundtrack then these would make a perfect compliment. Of the 7 tracks; you'll already have 2 of these in more or less identical quality. 2 of them are identical tracks, but in much better quality (cleaner audio, less record pops/clicks), one is a much longer version than the existing track and the final 2 are completely new tracks. Here are links to the sample track pages;

    http://www.divshare.com/download/6655206-7bc
    http://www.divshare.com/download/6849538-392
    http://www.divshare.com/download/6314366-6b5
    http://www.divshare.com/download/6849404-827

    And here is a link to the guy's ebay complete 'Items for Sale' list page;

    http://shop.ebay.co.uk/merchant/boogiejuice

    As I say these are only the tracks I found so if anyone finds anything else then please do post it, but not all his auctions have sample tracks though.

    I should also add that I have already messaged the guy asking very nicely if he would be willing to share any other tracks, and I'll post his reply, just so he doesn't get pissed off with a number of people messaging him all asking the same thing.

    forgot to mention thanx these sounds rock i downloaded them all!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by See No Evil View Post
    Theatrical Version Missing Tracks

    Track 120 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 121 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 122 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 124 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Track 126 (Could just be the backing cue with lots of echo/reverb)
    Great work on your DAWN cue list(s). I'm almost positive the tracks listed above are simply cues that have been processed through a tape echo, similar to what was done with several music cues in NIGHT.

    A few other corrections/omissions: in the theatrical version, Track 067 from the New Decade LP is actually titled "Dank Earth (Part 1)" by Don Harper, not "Dark Earth" by Jack Trombey.

    In the extended version, Track 032 "Motives 1" from Sun High was commercially released on the De Wolfe Bite Harder CD (DWCR001).

    You can see how frustrating and ridiculous that original cue sheet is. I have all of the LPs used for DAWN except for two or three (and I doubt I'll be paying over $100 for Electric Banana just to get "Cause I'm A Man"). It cost a ton of money to put together and there would have been far less hassle had a decent cue sheet been available.

    I ran into the same exact same problem with the official cue sheet for NIGHT, which is pretty funny when you consider that the cue sheet is how they determine which composers get paid.
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    Done a bit more legwork on this project. I've assembled a list of albums & tracks used in each version, as well as a master list covering all three. I know I'm still missing some cues, but these are the most complete lists I can currently make. The master list has 91 tracks listed (17 of which are goblin, so actually 74 cues) and I think I'm still missing 12-ish cues. This would mean a likely final total of around 86 cues (+ 17 Goblin tracks). The entries are listed in alphabetical order by album title, with the tracks used from that album following.

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    I have also put together another list. This is a list of cues which are NOT used, but had been listed, named or suggested (in various places) as possibly appearing in one or more versions. That it not to say I can guarantee that they don't appear in any version of the film, just having gone though the intensive & very thorough process of identifying & matching up all the cues I have so far, I cannot match any of these cues up to the unidentified sample tracks I have left.

    - Updated Link -
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    In the extended version, Track 032 "Motives 1" from Sun High was commercially released on the De Wolfe Bite Harder CD (DWCR001).
    I was sticking to released Dawn soundtracks. If I was to go down that route, then Carlo Rustichelli - I Vado, Vedo e Sparo is available on the official CD score for that film, Motives as you say is on Bite Harder, and Jack Trombey - Waiting For The Man, Jack Trombey - Red Sequence & Eric Towren - Violence can be found on the Kung Fu Super Sounds CD, among others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by See No Evil View Post
    The master list has 91 tracks listed (17 of which are goblin, so actually 74 cues) and I think I'm still missing 12-ish cues.
    Looks great, but just to reiterate, there is no track titled "Dark Earth" on the De Wolfe New Decade LP (a careless mistake thanks to the Trunk Records CD). It's "Dank Earth" in two parts, the first part being utilized in DAWN when the zombies converge on Roger hot-wiring the truck.

    Quote Originally Posted by See No Evil View Post
    I was sticking to released Dawn soundtracks. If I was to go down that route, then Carlo Rustichelli - I Vado, Vedo e Sparo is available on the official CD score for that film, Motives as you say is on Bite Harder, and Jack Trombey - Waiting For The Man, Jack Trombey - Red Sequence & Eric Towren - Violence can be found on the Kung Fu Super Sounds CD, among others.
    Being that you seem to already have all this interesting and helpful information, I would definitely go down that route.

    But what do I know?

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    I want all of it.

    ALL OF IT

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    I have put together a project website, which brings all the material I have produced together. Obviously the project isn't finished yet as I still have some tracks left to identify, but what I have so far is up anyway. I'm still working on it and various pages are still somewhat rough/under construction, but virtually all the information is there.

    http://www.seenoevil.aquiss.com/dotd/

    (I have also amended all my previously posted links to this address, as I have moved all the files into their own dotd folder on my webspace to tidy things up.)

    Looks great, but just to reiterate, there is no track titled "Dark Earth" on the De Wolfe New Decade LP (a careless mistake thanks to the Trunk Records CD). It's "Dank Earth" in two parts, the first part being utilized in DAWN when the zombies converge on Roger hot-wiring the truck.
    I have now amended this track title. No offence intended whatsoever, but with the old cue sheet having so many errors on, I wanted to be absolutely 100% sure before I changed it.

    Thanks for the heads up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by See No Evil View Post
    I have now amended this track title. No offence intended whatsoever, but with the old cue sheet having so many errors on, I wanted to be absolutely 100% sure before I changed it.
    No problem. I only know this from tracking down the actual LP, which was difficult due to the track name being incorrect on the Trunk Records CD.

    Too bad I didn't have your web page two years ago when I began looking for this music, I would have saved myself some money. The library LPs are worth having for all the awesome music they contain, not just the DAWN cues. It's fun discovering that the same music was used in other films, like the cues from Empty Horizons during the opening titles to Holy Grail. That's the stuff I'm interested in preserving.

    So when are you going to tackle NIGHT and the Capitol Hi-Q library?

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    I want all of it.

    ALL OF IT
    You again!
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    So when are you going to tackle NIGHT and the Capitol Hi-Q library?
    I know the score was released first on an LP, then later on a bootleg CD. I wasn't aware there was anything missing from it even if the proper names of the cues isn't known? My main issue with dawn was that not only were the proper names for the majority of the cues unknown, but alot of the cues had never had any commercial or even bootleg release.

    As I mention on the project info page, one of the tracks from the old incorrect cue sheet, I picked out as having been used in The Crazies, I might go for that if I want to go further.

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    Ok, which tracks are you missing? I will open up my vault if you've got a track I need.

    I need the following...

    Solo flute track that plays over Stephen and Fran arguing over abortion and Canada. This track was used in the Cannes only (which I am concentrating on), and was also featured in Season of the Withch, as well as the featurette on the DVD. I have isolated enough of the track from these three sources to patch together enough of a usable track. The track is unimportant to me but I'd still like to have it just to complete the piece. If I never find it, it'll be ok with me.

    The track that plays over the gun store scene. I have the tribal chant track (found by chance on the net, I have no lp information on this one), but I need the animal sounds to add over the top. Again, I am satisfied with what I have on this one, but it'd be nice to have the animals to go with it.

    Finally, the track that plays in the arcade. Seeing as how this track made it to all three versions of the film, I have come to the conclusion that it may have been live audio from the store Right now, I just use the live audio of the scene which works ok, but obviously the track itself is preferred. I've even tried hunting down info on the arcade itself to try and score their muzak reel, to no avail. This is easily the most wanted track that I still need.

    Minor track: There is a little clip of unintentional music that plays over Stephen saying "Jesus Christ... They're maniacs" just before running down to the mall to join Peter and Roger. It is so faint that I cannot isolate it and figure out what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axlish View Post
    Finally, the track that plays in the arcade. Seeing as how this track made it to all three versions of the film, I have come to the conclusion that it may have been live audio from the store
    Yup, a smiliar 'wurlitzer' type tune used to play over a horse racing game called 'Grand Derby' or something like that. It was one of those games where you operated model horses and raced them around an oval course. When I was holidaying in Blackpool as a kid, I remember thinking to myself that it sounded similar to the 'arcade theme' to Dawn.

    Tunes of this nature have turned up on shows like Monty Python's Flying Circus and such.

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