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    Quote Originally Posted by slickwilly13 View Post
    There has only been one death in the U.S. and it is right next to my home town. Who did it take? A 2 yr old.
    And at that, a 2 year old from Mexico, who got the flu in Mexico, and only came to the U.S. for medical treatment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Publius View Post
    And at that, a 2 year old from Mexico, who got the flu in Mexico, and only came to the U.S. for medical treatment.
    Bets on if the News services mention those facts or will the headline be "FIRST AMERICAN DEATH DUE TO THE PANDEMIC" ?

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    The Happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marie View Post
    Bets on if the News services mention those facts or will the headline be "FIRST AMERICAN DEATH DUE TO THE PANDEMIC" ?

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    Too late. Already stated this to some degree:

    "FIRST CONFIRMED SWINE FLU DEATH IN AMERICA"

    "A twenty-three month old child in Texas is the first casualty of the swine flu epidemic in America."
    http://airamerica.com/blog/2009/apr/...-united-states


    Also at CNN.health:
    "US TODDLER DIES AS SWINE FLU CASES MOUNT"
    (no where in the CNN article do they mention that the infant was brought to texas from mexico seeking healthcare)
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/29...ses/index.html
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    Have the bodies of the casualties of swine flu started reanimating yet?

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    I heard that some ex-porn star has been jabbing victims with a penile shaped organ which projects from an opening in her armpit, and confidential CDC sources speculate that the infection seems to have originated from her contact with these victims.


    I figure since the news is publishing rumors that they read online apparently without fact checking them, it will only be a matter of time before this piece of tripe gets on CNN.
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    A 12yr old girl has it apparently in a town called Devon in the UK, why the hell dose it seem to be only kids who are getting it!?!? (That’s rhetorical; I understand why kids would be more susceptible to it).

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    Have the bodies of the casualties of swine flu started reanimating yet?
    Soon, very soon
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    The Department of Homeland Security has sent out an alert to health care providers outlining how BATF, FBI, and U.S. Marshals will be called upon to impose mandatory quarantines in the event of a widespread swine flu outbreak in the U.S.



    According to the report, “DHS Assistant Secretary Bridger McGaw circulated the swine flu memo, which was obtained by CBSNews.com, on Monday night. It says: “The Department of Justice has established legal federal authorities pertaining to the implementation of a quarantine and enforcement. Under approval from HHS, the Surgeon General has the authority to issue quarantines.



    The memo states, “U.S. Customs and Coast Guard Officers assist in the enforcement of quarantine orders. Other DOJ law enforcement agencies including the U.S. Marshals, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives may also enforce quarantines. Military personnel are not authorized to engage in enforcement.



    However, a separate Defense Department planning document on dealing with pandemics states that the Pentagon will use the forces at its disposal to assist in “quarantining groups of people in order to minimize the spread of disease during an influenza pandemic” and aid in “efforts to restore and maintain order.




    As we reported yesterday, so-called “involuntary isolation” is already being enforced in certain areas of the United States. The state’s health director in North Carolina, Dr. Jeffrey Engel, said that authorities were already involuntarily isolating patients who may have the swine flu virus. He refused to divulge the location of where the victims were being quarantined.



    (ARTICLE CONTINUES BELOW)





    News reports such as this one from MSNBC are prevaricating around the contention that quarantines are a normal event that Americans should be comfortable with. In reality, there has only been one case of “involuntary quarantine” in the U.S. in the last 45 years.



    “In 2007, Andrew Speaker, an Atlanta lawyer, was quarantined inside a hospital in Denver on suspicion of having extensively drug-resistant tuberculosis. It turned out that the CDC was incorrect and Speaker had a milder form of the disease,” states the CBS report.



    The MSNBC report also falsely claims that quarantines will solely be handled on a state/local level, when in reality, Bush’s executive order 13375 outlines a federal response, and the DHS memo lists numerous federal authorities that will have powers of quarantine.



    In addition, the Bush administration’s National Strategy For Pandemic Influenza, released in November 2005, states that the federal government will impose “quarantines” and “limitations on gatherings”.



    With Time Magazine busy preparing Americans to accept enforced mass vaccination programs and telling them to “trust” the government and “forgive” them when the vaccines cause death and injuries, the prospect of mandatory quarantines will likely be the precursor for any such nationwide vaccination program. The vaccine to supposedly combat swine flu is being manufactured by Baxter International, who were caught red-handed last month attempting to release bird flu vaccines which were contaminated with the deadly avian flu virus itself.



    Swine flu has caused the death of one toddler in the U.S. and in fact only seven of the supposed 159 fatalities in Mexico have been confirmed as swine flu - meaning the other 152 could have been due to any number of infectious diseases that routinely kill Mexicans in the thousands on a yearly basis.



    The comparative threat of swine flu does not correlate with the feverish reaction of authorities, who in the initial stages of the outbreak refused to take any measures to contain it, such as closing the border with Mexico, but after the virus had already begun to spread, they were quick to prepare draconian control measures while hyping the inevitability of a pandemic.



    Meanwhile, the hysteria whipped up by the media has spread faster than the actual virus itself.


    http://www.prisonplanet.com/homeland...rocedures.html


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    Wow, thanks for posting the info Shadowofthedead. And your comment on the media spreading hysteria faster than the virus is spreading…… I agree 100%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowofthedead View Post
    The memo states, “U.S. Customs and Coast Guard Officers assist in the enforcement of quarantine orders. Other DOJ law enforcement agencies including the U.S. Marshals, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives may also enforce quarantines. Military personnel are not authorized to engage in enforcement."

    this was left for me in a bulletin on myspace. also research fema coffins and then put the two side by side. you tube is either the greatest tool in the world or the devil.
    The only aspect of this that I find curious is as to why agents of the Treasury Dept. (BATFE -- tax enforcement) would be used. You can't trust "F Troop" for much at any rate. Remember Waco?

    The FEMA coffin thing is a hoax. Those are actually burial vaults and they were photographed next to the plastic injection mold company that manufactures them.

    Why use bulky "coffins"? Wouldn't simple body bags be more effective?

    Just for the sake of argument: even if these are coffins, shouldn't an organization like FEMA at least have something in case of a massive natural disaster, or terror attack to contain the bodies of victims until proper burial could be arranged? Think of the public outcry if something did happen and FEMA's only contingency plan was to dig mass graves and bury victims en masse.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MikePizzoff View Post
    Have the bodies of the casualties of swine flu started reanimating yet?



    Media overhyping as usual. Sad to say but reality is people die from regular flu every year too.


    Now it may not be as bad as they thought.
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090501/.../med_swine_flu

    Wish they would make up their minds - another flu season or the end of the world.

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    all this talk of burials and whatnot reminds me of this:





    as for the swine flu - i am a bit nonplussed by it. my great aunt used to tell me stories about the great pandemic of 1918-19 (she was my grandma's oldest sister and was born in 1898 and lived until 2002!) that would've been a truly frightening time. no anti-biotics, just your immune system toe to toe with the flu.
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    Swine flu? Pfft... a load of old grandad's cock, trying to line the pockets of doctors and hospitals...

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    Quote Originally Posted by capncnut View Post
    Swine flu? Pfft... a load of old grandad's cock, trying to line the pockets of doctors and hospitals...
    One thing I've certainly been, is sickened by the media fascination with it - and, like pointed out on Newswipe, dropping the words "pandemic" at every given opportunity, but then turning round to say "but of course, we're not trying to make people panic" ... ... what-what-what?!

    Of course they fucking are! They're like tabloid papers, they shout about everything to make you panic, just like the American news networks, and it's disgusting.

    What's also annoying is the morons who can still afford - IN A BLOODY RECESSION - to be swanning off to Cancun, and then drag the flu back with them and promptly go about infecting their family and friends because they're morons.

    There was a couple from Texas or something, who I heard about, who had been in Mexico when the thing 'came out', and they very sensibly drove back to their home - telephoned everyone they knew and said "don't come to our house, don't come to see us, avoid us completely until we know we don't have it" - very sensible thinking.

    If only everyone else had been like that, it's not as if you'd not know about Swine Flu, what with the shockingly lurid headlines on The Sun and Express and so on about 'the whole of humanity is at risk!" - seriously - I mean what the fudge is with that?

    Christ almighty.

    It's no excuse to not take it seriously, because it could turn into something if you did sod all about it and just ignored anything was happening - but on the flipside, ranting about nigh-on-apocalypse in the news media is sickening ... ironically.

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    Swine flu is treatable with Tamiflu.

    Tamiflu is made by a pharmaco called Roche.

    Roche has a very high proportion of shares owned by politicians and powerful media moguls (including Donald Rumsfeld and Donald Trump).

    So, to a cynical bastard like me, it looks like certain powerful parties have a vested interest in making the panic over Swine Flu spread as far and as fast as possible.

    The one inescapable fact in all this, and the one that the vast majority of the media are conscientiously avoiding, is something that came up in an interview with a UN disease expert on BBC radio the other day - in between all the panic-peddling, the interviewer asked her straight: is swine Flu quantitatively worse than seasonal flu. She answered simply: we don't know.

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