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    Quote Originally Posted by Trin View Post
    I think Zach Snyder is posting as all the new members trying to drum up discussion in hopes of getting interest in a sequel in the works.

    Hey Zach, if that works for you please do a couple of things in the next one:
    - No zombie babies
    - A little more justification to leave the safe place
    - Everyone who dies comes back, not just the infected
    - Make sure the zombies eat cows (hahahahaha - j/k)


    you just might be on to something here, trin. i'd go one farther on your suggestions: don't make another zombie movie. the world already has enough 15 year olds who think you invented the genre.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike70 View Post


    you just might be on to something here, trin. i'd go one farther on your suggestions: don't make another zombie movie. the world already has enough 15 year olds who think you invented the genre.
    I wouldn't be surprised if Snyder himself believes he invented the genre. He always seems like he's full of himself. But I could be biased because he's one of those people that I just want to knock out when I see his face...

    As if I haven't stated it before in the 9.2 billion threads just like this one(search feature, people!): Dawn04 is an action movie with zombies. And not a very good one. See it once and then forget it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trin View Post
    I think Zach Snyder is posting as all the new members trying to drum up discussion in hopes of getting interest in a sequel in the works.

    Hey Zach, if that works for you please do a couple of things in the next one:
    - No zombie babies
    - A little more justification to leave the safe place
    - Everyone who dies comes back, not just the infected
    - Make sure the zombies eat cows (hahahahaha - j/k)


    Well, I'm of the mind that there are veeeeeeeerrrry few coincidences in life and I don't think this is one of them. Something's up with that.




    But ya, i love Dawn 04' and all but till' this day I can't for the life of me fathom whyy the hell they would leave the mall.


    I realize that their supplies were running low and that they had just been trauamatized by recent events but rushing out into a city of canabalistic track stars isn't doing anyone any favors.






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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Well, I'm of the mind that there are veeeeeeeerrrry few coincidences in life and I don't think this is one of them. Something's up with that.







    I am even more suspicious now that I realize that these three first time posters- who were seemingly so all fired up about posting their thoughts that they created this thread and then had what appeared to be a lively discussion at the time - have since fallen silent. I can understand one random dude not posting, but three new arrivals all not posting...really, it seems improbable from a statistical standpoint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yojimbo View Post
    Listen- you smell that?

    That would be a great sig dude.

    It's almost identical to the ghostbusters line: "Listen! You smell something!?!





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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    That would be a great sig dude.

    It's almost identical to the ghostbusters line: "Listen! You smell something!?!





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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    But ya, i love Dawn 04' and all but till' this day I can't for the life of me fathom whyy the hell they would leave the mall.

    Well if I remember correctly a silly little dint had run out to save her dog, which then meant a rescue party had to head out, and the person who was supposed to be watching the door wasn't, this meant the zombies got into the mall, and they all had to leave.

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    I kind of liked the remake the first time I saw it, but recently I sat down to watch it again and I didn't even get as far the opening credits. I find Zack Snyder's style of direction and Niven Howie's editing to be heartless and irritating - even during the supposedly calm opening scenes, no single shot lasted more than about three seconds. Even when Ana is watching Vivian learn how to rollerblade, the act of actually skating a few feet down a quiet suburban street is presented from about four different angles from different takes with no more than a couple of seconds per shot. It's supposed to be a serene, peaceful encounter, and yet it's shot like a car chase. It's ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dommm View Post
    Well if I remember correctly a silly little dint had run out to save her dog, which then meant a rescue party had to head out, and the person who was supposed to be watching the door wasn't, this meant the zombies got into the mall, and they all had to leave.
    The scene in question is where they sit around and talk about leaving the mall based on one character's stupid comment. The scene where CJ points out how stupid it is and then agrees to go along with it anyway. It came way before stupid girl + stupid dog scene.

    The whole predication of the scene was a joke. Snyder knew he couldn't make them leave the mall without some lip service as to why. But it was the most abbreviated and nonsensical conversation ever. He couldn't tear himself away from action sequences long enough to give time to the thought process and rationale of their situation? Everyone knows that *eventually* they'd be forced to leave the mall. A tiny restructuring of the plot and dialogue and it would've made sense. But noooooooo... we need more explosions!!

    And wasn't this supposed to be a horror movie? Why aren't they scared to death to leave the mall? I would think at least half of them would be so scared of going back outside that they'd sooner starve to death. (I might be one of them faced with that situation)

    I agree with Bassman... action movie with zombies. See it once. Hell watch it over and over again if you like explosions. But don't compare it to Dawn '78.

    And I'm still waiting for explanation how so many new posters came into the same thread....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dommm View Post
    Well if I remember correctly a silly little dint had run out to save her dog, which then meant a rescue party had to head out, and the person who was supposed to be watching the door wasn't, this meant the zombies got into the mall, and they all had to leave.

    Well, they were planning to leave the mall before that happened. They had been making preparations for days, ever since the incident with the baby gave them an epiphany.

    That just made it happen quicker than they wanted and caused them to rush the process which resulted in several deaths.

    The whole reason the dog was even over there was to bring Andy some food so he could regain his strength and be strong enough to participate in the escape.







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    Quote Originally Posted by krakenslayer View Post
    I find Zack Snyder's style of direction and Niven Howie's editing to be heartless and irritating - even during the supposedly calm opening scenes, no single shot lasted more than about three seconds. Even when Ana is watching Vivian learn how to rollerblade, the act of actually skating a few feet down a quiet suburban street is presented from about four different angles from different takes with no more than a couple of seconds per shot. It's supposed to be a serene, peaceful encounter, and yet it's shot like a car chase. It's ridiculous.
    jesus h. the editing in that movie is atrocious and like you said, heartless. i really do not get how switching shots every 3 or 4 seconds adds anything to a film, unless you are trying to induce epileptic seizures in half the audience. it's more irritating to me that just about anything else in modern cinema. this goes hand in hand with shit cinematography. the asshole that shot yawn 04 should be made to study the work of people like sven nykvist, john alcott and russell carpenter, so he can see how you actually shoot a fucking movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike70 View Post
    the asshole that shot yawn 04 should be made to study the work of people like sven nykvist, john alcott and russell carpenter, so he can see how you actually shoot a fucking movie.



    I think he might have one upped that. He obviously got a job doing the camerawork on the gears of war games whever dudes run. Man I hate that shaky ass thing.






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    I wasn't really put off by the filming in Dawn '04.

    But movies that did leave me hating the filming style were 28 Day, 28 Weeks, and, yes, Diary. I could barely sit through the epileptic style of 28 Days/Weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trin View Post
    I wasn't really put off by the filming in Dawn '04.

    But movies that did leave me hating the filming style were 28 Day, 28 Weeks, and, yes, Diary. I could barely sit through the epileptic style of 28 Days/Weeks.


    Well, you know how trends are. They'll be followed until it just doesn't rake in the cash any more. Then, the copycats will just have to see what other original ideas they can "hack".


    It's just like a couple of years back with all of these "torture porn" films like hostel who's sole purpose was just to show gross stuff on screen with no plot to speak of. When that was no longer a moneymaker we got into the Whole Seth Rogen Comedy era where the dude comes out with a new film every other month it seems like. (IMO, that sun has almost set as well. each successive film get boringer an boringer.)


    Pretty soon that won't be profitable and they'll again have to figure out from what genre/style the public wants to get their next movie fix from.






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