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    Lord of the Rings Extended bluray colour issues

    http://www.theonering.net/torwp/2011...lu-ray-review/

    But, after careful examination, I have concluded without relying on any other internet source or image, “Fellowship of the Ring,” seems to have some issues not shared with the other two films in the trilogy on Blu-ray EEs.

    For those not all that aware of visuals and are just in it for the story-telling, be aware that blacks should be black and whites should be white while each retains detail. The eye does a marvelous job of finding this in real life but replicating it on screen is a challenge as old as film. As previously stated, the already rich visual feel for these films has been improved but FOTR has some obvious greens added in this edition that are especially obvious over strong whites. For example, as the Fellowship climbs steep, snow covered peaks in bright sunshine, the scene actually looks like it has a green filter over it. Not only are the whites off here but the blacks in the snowy scene take on a greenish hue as well. Comparing it to a scene in “Return of the King,” where a certain white wizard on a white horse rides up the streets of the white city make it absolutely clear that something is drastically different between the two. It is also obvious when compared to the previous Blu-ray release.

    I have a strong, but completely unconfirmed suspicion that something went wrong in the scan or transfer process.
    Click here for "blue" changes:-
    http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/59621

    Maybe doesn't look so bad int he flesh though:-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCvUrVQSFy4




    Some of the more subtle "green" changes:-
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vwcm-73kZE8

    Just seems to make it darker sadly!
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    i really do not get this modern fascination with green and blue filtering on movies. the "Underworld" series has been reduced to like 4 colors. i'm simply using that as an example of something i think has gone WAY too far.

    where is the beautiful, lush color processing that was in movies from the 50's and 60's?? some of those films look like moving paintings. to my eye there is no comparison.

    sorry if this is a bit off the topic of LOTR but it is something i find damned annoying.
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    Old fashioned Cinematography is a dead art. This business of post-production filtering is ruining a lot of films, TBH. Sometimes the image is rendered unwatchable. This kind of "colour-scheme" approach makes the entire film a bit too samey sometimes. I understand that a lot of older films, such as 'Alien' were shot with palettes in mind, but with the ability to post produce a colour scheme onto a film with computers these days, the subtlety is often entirely lost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    Old fashioned Cinematography is a dead art. This business of post-production filtering is ruining a lot of films, TBH. Sometimes the image is rendered unwatchable. This kind of "colour-scheme" approach makes the entire film a bit too samey sometimes. I understand that a lot of older films, such as 'Alien' were shot with palettes in mind, but with the ability to post produce a colour scheme onto a film with computers these days, the subtlety is often entirely lost.
    Yes and no.

    There is a great documentary on some of the colour processing used on LOTR, and some of it is brilliant!
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    It all depends on who the person is. Sometimes it can be used to piss-take levels - e.g. Underworld 2 - the bluest movie I've ever seen that wasn't porn. It was so blue that I actually found it at best utterly distracting, and at worst it made me a bit queasy.

    Then again you have really good filtering and colour correction getting employed - like finally blending in those matte paintings from Blade Runner in with the rest of the shot that was in live-action. Before the 2007 Final Cut, they always stood out a bit, but then when they tweaked the colouring they matched it perfectly. They didn't change the colour of the whole film - seemingly little changed - but it was a simple tweak to bring the two elements together that was a satisfyingly subtle change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike70 View Post
    where is the beautiful, lush color processing that was in movies from the 50's and 60's??
    It appears to have run away from Hollywood... hand in hand with it's partner, "original ideas."

    Last edited by LouCipherr; 10-Oct-2012 at 12:43 PM. Reason: .

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