the secret service might want to visit this guy...

[SymphonicX]

Well, the man WAS a Socialist, technically.... LULZ! Dude was only slightly to the right of The Sun newspaper and Genghis Khan!

[strayrider]

You are making the assumption that child molesters are Gay...right off the bat you are doing exactly what you said people should not do. No, I'm not. I'll phrase it differently. Some Gay people are child molesters. They should be held accountable for their actions. The Gay community should not. Some Christians are loony. They should be held accountable for their actions. The Christian community should not. Is my point now clarified to your satisfaction? -stray-

[SymphonicX]

Only that gay people and kiddie fiddlers are completely unrelated in every sense.

[strayrider]

All of this simply comes down to OBAMA being the first black president... end of argument. If Hillary clinton would have won it would be sexism instead of racism. Right! That is exactly how the Left plays the game. They have the deck loaded with all sorts of "cards". Don't agree with a black guy? YOU'RE A RACIST! Don't agree with a woman? YOU'RE A SEXIST! (of course these same rules do not apply to Conservative black guys, or Conservative women ... you can disagree with them to your heart's content and still be PC ) It's really becoming old and ineffective. -stray- Only that gay people and kiddie fiddlers are completely unrelated in every sense. Prove, irrefutably, that no gay person has ever molested a child. -stray-

[SymphonicX]

Prove, irrefutably, that no gay person has ever molested a child. -------- I don't need to, burden of proof is for you to prove that non-gays haven't done that stuff, and its isolated to the gay community. There are many straight people who have, therefore the issue isn't with gay people or their sexuality, therefore it's competeley irrelevant. You could pick any minority at this point and insert it there. You pick gay people and that worries me that your initial thought was to assosciate gay people with sexual deviancy.

[strayrider]

You could pick any minority at this point and insert it there. You pick gay people and that worries me that your initial thought was to assosciate gay people with sexual deviancy. So you understand that my original post to Mike was exactly what you are saying here? Which is to say don't stereotype people based on their affiliations. The only reason for my usage of gay people is because it is a common misperception that they are "kiddie fiddlers" as a group -- a stereotype -- in direct counter-point to the assertion that Christians are nut jobs, which is also a misperception -- or stereotype. I believe that Mike understood my point without any further explanation. I don't understand why you haven't. -stray-

[SymphonicX]

I spose it makes sense when you say it like that...and we moved from the original point so much I forgot what you wrote...

[strayrider]

I spose it makes sense when you say it like that...and we moved from the original point so much I forgot what you wrote... Right, I probably should have mentioned the nutjob in the video. From what I saw he didn't actually say that HE wanted to kill Obama, only that it wouldn't bother him if someone else did. If this is true, then the SS shouldn't waste their time with him. Incidentally, it would bother me if someone offed the AssClown. As much as I dislike his policies, I don't really dislike him. He's kinda cute in a silly way (see pic below). Plus, I do support the office of the President and I pledge ... no, wait, that is a different thread ... -stray- ps -- now, if we could only get Soetoro to release his BC and personal records like the big man on campus that he is, all of these "birthers" might just go away. And did I mention how proud I am of Barry for his handling of the Iranian elections a few weeks ago. Good job! His grade has gone from an L- to a K+.

[DubiousComforts]

You don't judge the entire gay community on the actions of a few child molesters, do you? Yet I do judge the Catholic religion (my faith) on how poorly they've handled child molestation cases that have taken place within their own parishes. Any rational person should be judging them. Right! That is exactly how the Left plays the game. They have the deck loaded with all sorts of "cards". Don't agree with a black guy? YOU'RE A RACIST! Don't agree with a woman? YOU'RE A SEXIST! This would be a cute viewpoint except for the fact that there are a lot of racist and sexist people, and they don't have to "disagree with a black guy or a woman" to make that apparent. It's not a "left game" either.

[strayrider]

Yet I do judge the Catholic religion (my faith) on how poorly they've handled child molestation cases that have taken place within their own parishes. Any rational person should be judging them. Doobie, I agree with you. Catholic leadership has done a lousy job of handling that particular problem, however, I do not judge every person who is a Catholic because of it. In other words, I do not say that all Catholics support "kiddie fiddling". This would be a cute viewpoint except for the fact that there are a lot of racist and sexist people, and they don't have to "disagree with a black guy or a woman" to make that apparent. Cute as in how? Cute as in silly, or cute as in physically attractive. If the latter, then thank you very much, TickleBear. (tee hee) Seriously, if my original intent had been to deny the existence of racism I can see your comments as being relevant, otherwise, what exactly are you saying here? How does it relate to DJ's opinion that not liking Obama simply because he is black automatically equates to racism? It's not a "left game" either. Is too. -stray-