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    Quote Originally Posted by Exatreides View Post
    1. Go to mission select
    2. Select Mission
    3. Set difficulty as recruit. Problem solved.
    On the campaign that's what I did.

    I'm talking specifically about Spec Ops, where you don't have Casual/Easy mode, only Regular and above.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    Ah, that figures it then - waves ... cos yeah, that's more convincing than spawning.
    Thats what i love about Arma 2, realistic military missions where sometimes you'll only come across a couple of enemies in a mission, other times you'll be facing a battalion of mechanised infantry, all in a lovely open world with no invisible walls!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    On the campaign that's what I did.

    I'm talking specifically about Spec Ops, where you don't have Casual/Easy mode, only Regular and above.
    I've found that both regular and hardened modes on the spec ops missions really aren't that hard at all. Especially when playing with a friend. Only the veteran modes seem to give me any trouble (out of the six I've completed).

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    Sessler's Soapbox: The Modern Warfare 2 Airport Scene

    More fake outrage. This guy Adam Sessler is going on Fox and friends to represent. I wish him luck with those douchebags.

    But I'm seriously tired of people shitting on games and always complaining about their content. It's an art form like any other and i wish they would stop trying to censor it.

    he arguement is that at the very least it desensitizes people to violence. Well, don't violent movies and television do that as well?

    Check this comment out:

    The majority of people who posted believe that videogames like COD:MW2 desensitize kids to violence and some posters go so far to suggest that videogames even encourages kids to reenact the game scenes and kill others. This is obviously not the case. But this is their belief and the mass media, like Fox and Friends, are partially to blame.


    Hold the phone here. KIDS !! That's one of the problems right there. Kids shouldn't be exposed to this stuff at all. Would someone say: "We have to ban porn because it's desensitizing our kids and making sex just a casual experience." ?

    Hell no. The first question any sane person would ask is " why the hell are these kids watching porn in the first place?"

    Same deal here.


    http://g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/70...ort-Scene.html

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    Hmm, this game isn't really the vertible orgasmic joy that I expected...
    Single player is good, but you don't have a clue what's going on in the story...the missions so far are quite easy and as for multiplayer - well...I HATE Cod multiplayer...the spec ops thing is OK, but once I've completed that and the single player I can see this game being shelved alongside Halo 3 and Cod4.

    More of the same really, I dunno if I was expecting too much but so far the game hasn't delivered half of what I'd hoped for.
    Innocent victims of merciless crimes, fall prey to some madman's impulsive designs.

    Step after step we try controlling our fate. When we finally start living, it's become too late.

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    so no "pig's orgasm", huh, symph?

    so far, i'm liking it a lot. i'm a stickler for details though, and if i recall, the sgt who's in charge of the unit in afghanistan is also the same dude who's in charge of the unit in the u.s. during the surprise attack 3 days later. WTF?

    kinda like in world at war, you play the role of two different guys throughout, and each of them are privates for the duration of the game...even though there are several months that pass during the storyline. seriously, don't the makers of this game realize that people get promoted during their military careers?

    but yeah, story mode is fun, currently running through on veteran difficulty. haven't fooled much with special ops, but it seems pretty sweet so far...and i'm a total call of duty multiplayer addict, so with all the improvements, i'm in gaming heaven right now.

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    Seems Sessler didn't go on Fox after all - scheduling conflict apparently.

    As for being "desensitised to violence", I'd be more detailed and say FICTIONAL FAKE violence. You can see as much stuff on a TV screen, but there's a vast, yawning chasm of difference between that and say, for example, seeing a dude get their head kicked in by a gang of thugs on a Friday night, or being involved in a store robbery, or any other random act of violence that can occur in real life - where you've seeing it through your own eyes, not on a TV screen, where you're hearing it with your own ears in real-life audio, not some augmented Stereo/Surround Sound set-up, smelling the smells of the moment, and feeling the situation.

    A huge difference. But nobody ever makes that distinction when talking about "desensitisation" and it fucks me off.

    ...

    As for MW2 plot elements - there are a couple of "eh?" moments in the story.

     
    Captain Price "temporarily going rogue" when he launches the missile, and Captain Price immediately joining Taskforce 141 even though he's been imprisoned in that Gulag for, I don't know how long - so he's in fighting shape already is he? Hmmm.

    Also, the American soldier from the first level gets immediately drafted into the CIA and the very next day he's joined a terrorist cell and attacks the airport?! Yeah right, they don't hire people freelance at a moment's notice for crying out loud.


    Because the game is so frenetic, I did find it increasingly difficult to keep up with the story. Dialogue is rushed and often delivered during fire fights, so you've got not time to pay attention. Soliders in real life are trained to deal with such situations and screeds of information coming at them from all angles, but your average gamer isn't.

    This is the main problem I have with MW2 - it's TOO MUCH ALL THE FUCKING TIME - there's barely any chance of a breath, and as such the plot frequently gets lost amongst the chaos.

    For example, there's a bit involving having to "pop green smoke" - I completely missed the reason WHY we had to do that when I played the level itself, and only found out why on Wikipedia!

    This said, I still loved MW2, and while the action is definitely better than MW1, as is the sense of scale, and drama, and the amount of "cool moments", the action is simply too non-stop.

    There's feeling non-stop, but having plenty of time to understand the plot and breathe inbetween moments of intensity, and then there's literally non-stop and having no time to understand the plot fully, let alone take a breath ... MW2 is the latter.

    MW2 does some stuff better than MW1, but MW1 does some things better than MW2. So ultimately, it's a level playing field when all is said and done.

    Hopefully IW learn with MW3 about throttle control ... as well as making CASUAL MODE a bit more fucking casual.

    ...

    Sounds like I'm bitching a lot, but those elements did annoy me, or grind on me, or disappoint me a bit. Even still, I was jaw-to-the-floor throughout (despite the odd gaping plot hole here and there - something they should seek to improve on in MW3), and was often shaking with adrenaline, hunched forth on my chair when it was all kicking off.

    ...

    Also, I believe you play as five different characters throughout...

    Private Joseph Allen, US Army Rangers
    Sergeant Gary "Roach" Sanderson, Task Force 141
    Private James Ramirez, 1st Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment
     
    Captain "Soap" MacTavish, Task Force 141 (for three missions after Roach is betrayed, along with Ghost, by Cpl Shepherd (voiced by Lance Henrikson) and shot and burned alive - my jaw was on the floor at that moment, I must say!)

    Unnamed International Space Station Astronaut, briefly...
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    soaps a captain in this game I believe.


    I'm still debating whether or not I want to pick this up tbh. I was never a big fan of COD multi player, and the single player story line is wtf ridiculous (and really damn short), but it is presented well enough, and seems to be engrossingish. That said, I'm having a tough time trying to justify 65 dollars for a 5 hour campaign, and multi player that I will most likely never play very often. I'm one to talk though, I bought ODST on launch day, for 65 bucks, and it has a 4.5 hour campaign, if that. At least I enjoy the multi player hehe.

    also, Battlefield 2 bad company is coming in a few months I believe, so I may just wait for that, as it the multi player looks fantastic.

    choices, choices....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SymphonicX View Post
    Hmm, this game isn't really the vertible orgasmic joy that I expected...
    Single player is good, but you don't have a clue what's going on in the story...the missions so far are quite easy and as for multiplayer - well...I HATE Cod multiplayer...the spec ops thing is OK, but once I've completed that and the single player I can see this game being shelved alongside Halo 3 and Cod4.

    More of the same really, I dunno if I was expecting too much but so far the game hasn't delivered half of what I'd hoped for.
    Quote Originally Posted by mista_mo View Post
    soaps a captain in this game I believe.


    I'm still debating whether or not I want to pick this up tbh. I was never a big fan of COD multi player, and the single player story line is wtf ridiculous (and really damn short), but it is presented well enough, and seems to be engrossingish. That said, I'm having a tough time trying to justify 65 dollars for a 5 hour campaign, and multi player that I will most likely never play very often. I'm one to talk though, I bought ODST on launch day, for 65 bucks, and it has a 4.5 hour campaign, if that. At least I enjoy the multi player hehe.

    also, Battlefield 2 bad company is coming in a few months I believe, so I may just wait for that, as it the multi player looks fantastic.

    choices, choices....
    4 words: Left 4 Dead 2 !

    Love it or hate it it's totally worth the 60 bucks if only for the fact that I've gotten (forget about hours) literally a year's worth of gameplay out of it.

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    oh yea, forgot about that one haha. as much as I love it, I am still a little ansy about paying full price for it..but..it is so damn addictive.

    I mean, If I am going to decide between 2 full priced expansion packs, I may as well choose the good one.

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    Quoted from elsewhere..
    Here are some quick impressions from the single player so far.

    After playing the single player for a little bit (on Act 2 of 3 now) I have to say it's definitely a step backwards. CoD 4 felt much more immersive and the story was intriguing with a main goal. There was a feeling of "we trust you to know how to get from a to b" and you just had the little blip on the compass at the bottom of the screen that told you which direction to go in. That has been replaced with a GIANT white circle that shows through everything and says things like "FOLLOW", "Protect", and "125 m". These things are then placed right on top of what you need to find. It takes all of the fun and immersion out of the game b/c it's basically become connect the dots, with them telling you exactly how to draw the line. I'm sorry, but if you can't find a glowing yellow suitcase in a room you should go find another hobby or a better level designer. I don't need a giant marker placed on top of it.

    I have to say, the PC version definitely lacks any real "features" that are specific to improving the PC version (some features that used to be considered standard). The loss of leaning, even in single player, kills me. You also have no ability to customize the hud. I for one like to play without crosshairs or any ammo information. This cannot be turned off. The only options you are given are the ability to change the screen resolution and the quality of the graphics (textures, aa, etc.), remap the keys and play with the audio. Pretty sad that all of the features that were in CoD 4 didn't seem to make the transition over to this one.

    This game feels like they tried to turn the dial up to 11, but in doing so went for the Michael Bay approach to story telling (aka big explosions and special effects over an incoherent story) rather than creating new features and telling a compelling story. The overall story feels rushed and scattered, jumping from one person to the next very quickly. The missions don't feel as connected as they did in CoD 4, and a lot of details are left up to you to fill in, which could have easily been added in as more missions. You do one mission and all of a sudden something HUGE has happened, but you never have this looming "something bad is about to happen" feeling. It just happens and you are left thinking "really? Where did this come from?" I've already played as several different people and I've only played 4 or so levels. It's hard to really form any attachment to a character when you are constantly playing some random person. Seeing a name displayed of who you "are" doesn't really make me feel attached to some random soldier. I've read that the campaign only last for about 4 hours or so, and at the pace I am going that seems about right. So far each mission has lasted about 10 - 15 minutes, counting the intro cinematics.

    I will say though that the game does look really good as far as character / weapon models and environments go. The animations are also top notch.

    It's too bad they didn't give this game some extra time in the cooker to really polish it for the PC. I've read a lot of the horror reports of the mp, and doubt I will play it. I'm sure their matchmaking is great for people that don't know how to use a server list and don't know what a good ping is, but as I mentioned above, I don't need a game to hold my hand to do the most basic of tasks like finding a server with people I like on it. If you are more of a single player person and aren't interested in the multiplayer I'd have to say this game is not worth the $60. Wait several years until it's on sale for 20 bucks.
    Does that about sum it up? I was thinking about buying it after everyones early raving, but a few days later & reading stuff like that I cant really justify spending 50 bone on it! I also cant believe 2 years after release CoD 4 is still retailing at £40!! How do they justify that when equally awesome games drop down to £19.99 within a couple of months of release (on PC)

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    special ops is pretty fun so far, and if you enjoyed mw2 or world at war's multiplayer, you'll be very pleased with this game.

    ...but yeah, the campaign has some major weak points as far as plot and story progression go. it's still fun, but the pacing and progression of the story and characters involved is, as mo said, re-fucking-diculous.
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    If you're buying Modern Warfare 2 for single-player only, you're buying it for the wrong reason. Those impressions are horrible, the guy didn't even play multiplayer.

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    Thats the problem though, nearly all games seem to be geared towards multiplayer these days, which fucks things over for those of us who like a good single player game with a decent story line & AI. I played nothing but multiplayer for quite a long time a couple of years back, but eventually got sick of it & went back to enjoying single player

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tricky View Post
    Thats the problem though, nearly all games seem to be geared towards multiplayer these days, which fucks things over for those of us who like a good single player game with a decent story line & AI.

    Resident Evil 5 anyone?

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