Robert Rodriguez rebooting Predator?

**slickwilly13** · 09-Jul-2010

I am curious about this movie, so I may catch an earlier showing during the weekend.

**Eyebiter** · 09-Jul-2010

Predators is a sequel to the first film in the series, ignores events in Predator 2 and the AVP movies.

This is a summer time popcorn action flick. Don't expect deep character development or insightful commentary on the human condition. It's all about surviving in the jungle on an alien planet being hunted by an invisible and unknown enemy.

F/X is decent. Plot feels like it's recycled from the first film. Down to the fact one guy has a minigun and another has the same big knife from the first film.

Characters are like archtypes from a video game - various types of military and criminals representing conflicts from across the globe.

**rongravy** · 10-Jul-2010

I'm seeing it in half an hour.
A couple of off the wall things...
I didn't know Van Damme was originally supposed to be the Predator. He was a whiny dick and too small compared to the stars so they shitcanned him. Awesome move.
Also, Adrian Brody is in this. Did anybody else ever see Splice?
Let's just hope he doesn't try to fuck THIS creepy mutant to death...

I totally forgot there was only one sequel to the original until this. I also thought this was a reboot, though it isn't.
I'm hoping it'll be good, but I'm getting superbaked just... in... case.

**rongravy** · 10-Jul-2010

Sorry to double post, but I done did seen it, I did, I did!!!
Anyway, it was decent. They showed the Machete trailer before it.
Very actiony, and the gore wasn't bad. Worth watching on the bigscreen, I'd say. Definitely left it open for more...

**SymphonicX** · 10-Jul-2010

I mean if you look back on the original Predator movie - it was just a basic actioner - so this new part of the franchise sounds like it's staying pretty close to the original.

It was Alien that had depth, and when the Alien and Predator finally met in AVP, the plot was closer to the original Predator than Alien...nothing to do with someone's struggle against an evil alien species, and more to do with a bunch of people going somewhere, then getting killed.

**bassman** · 11-Jul-2010

So wait.....how is the original Predator that much different from the orginal Alien? Both films involve a group of people unwillingly sent into a strange environment with a superior hunter. You may like one over the other, but they're very, very similar. Ripe for the crossover series.

**SymphonicX** · 11-Jul-2010

Originally Posted by bassman

So wait.....how is the original Predator that much different from the orginal Alien? Both films involve a group of people unwillingly sent into a strange environment with a superior hunter. You may like one over the other, but they're very, very similar. Ripe for the crossover series.

Plot wise, on paper the films are similar - what you've got with Alien is a far more indepth understanding of the human ability to adapt and overcome.

Fundamentally you have one film with a bunch of bad-asses, who have never in the history of the military actually existed, and on the other you've got a vision of the far future where normal people, with no military background, have careers in mining materials from other planets - so one card has a bunch of action film characters, the other tries to put YOU in the driving seat a little more, because each person on that ship is both fallable, and completely vulnerable to the Alien onboard. The style of filming is slow, plot and atmosphere driven horror - Predator isn't - it's a great movie though, but if AVP had even half of the dark, brooding atmosphere set up by Alien, it would have been a winner.

It's this study of the character's vulnerability and their approach to dealing with the alien problem (from Ian Holm's cyborg Ash for instance), and their location that sets the film up as far more claustrophobic, and far more intense than Predator ever was. The following films explored Ripley's struggle against this species, creating a legacy that looks at the human cost of this situation.

Predator was about a bunch of hard-asses getting the shit blown out of them by a very well designed character from outer space that hunts on Earth for sport - it goes about that deep really.

And let's look at the archetypal annoying character - Predator doesn't have one - but Alien has the woman who gets killed near the end, she's always bawling and in complete pieces - and in every horror film I can imagine that very character is by far the most irrational, and annoying person - but not in Alien. No her horror and fear is completely passed off onto the audience, both her performance and her dialogue set up her existence as justifiably scared and fearful of death - she goes to pieces exactly how YOU or I would go to pieces in that situation...and that's what sets the movies apart - real people vs stereotypical badasses

**CooperWasRight** · 11-Jul-2010

I saw it Friday.... I was expecting to be disappointed like I had been my last couple of outing to the cinema.

I wasn't... I can honestly say it was a pretty good flick...I give it about a 8 out of 10...Graded on a action movie curve of course... I honestly don't get the whole "It's just a copy of the first argument"... It is not... Other then the fact that the Predator is hunting a bunch of guys... And a few homages*

It stands as a worthy sequel and leagues better the the avp movies. It really didnt have and had scratching or serious eye rolling scenes and it had good editing and pacing.

* For those of you that have seen it... The first big homage to a classic scene with the first involving a lot of firepower was super weak in this film and didn't hold a candle... That scene was one of very few disappointments I have with this film

**MinionZombie** · 11-Jul-2010

Saw it earlier today. Yeah, the opening has a few homages (the gun scene that Cooper mentions, as well as a bunch of musical moments).

Over all I dug the flick - I'd put it on par with Predator 2, which is a good flick. Predator 2 does some stuff better, but Predators does some other stuff better. So they, all said and done, match each other. Nothing was ever going to beat Predator 1.

The AvP movies sucked though ... goddamn they sucked.

Will blog about it in more depth later on.

**clanglee** · 11-Jul-2010

Meh, I just kind of found it to be a crappy version of the original. Same situation, different planet, less fun, and no Arnold. Meh. It kept my attention though. . .and it was better than the AVP movies. . .but I even found it subpar to Predator 2.

**ProfessorChaos** · 11-Jul-2010

going to see this monday afternoon. friend of mine called earlier and highly recommended it. not heard/read a bad review yet, so i'm allowing myself to remain mildly excited.

**CooperWasRight** · 11-Jul-2010

Originally Posted by clanglee

Meh, I just kind of found it to be a crappy version of the original. Same situation, different planet, less fun, and no Arnold. Meh. It kept my attention though. . .and it was better than the AVP movies. . .but I even found it subpar to Predator 2.

You enjoyed Gary Busey chasing a Predator around with a glorified can of compressed air more then Predators eh?....

**clanglee** · 11-Jul-2010

Originally Posted by CooperWasRight

You enjoyed Gary Busey chasing a Predator around with a glorified can of compressed air more then Predators eh?....

Yup, it had a decent plot, and some likable characters. . . .and it did something new with the story.

Oh and no completely predictible plot "twist" from Topher Grace.

**CooperWasRight** · 12-Jul-2010

Originally Posted by clanglee

Yup, it had a decent plot, and some likable characters. . . .and it did something new with the story.

Oh and no completely predictible plot "twist" from Topher Grace.

Im sure you guessed tophers secret... Mind giving me next weeks lotto numbers?.... I have never met anyone that actually thought Predator 2 was a good movie... It is pretty much universally considered crap. Granted it had some cool additions to the mythology... Other then that it is below the avp films.