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    Quote Originally Posted by hellsing View Post
    2: charlten heston was a bad actor, the man did one thing on screen and one only: monologue angrily, and nothing else and the franchise does not need him to continue and certainly not another "actor" like him.

    3: Whilst the cgi is off putting im glad this franchise isnt dead.
    2. Wow, I couldn't disagree more. Chuck Heston was a fantastic actor that did some of the best films that were made over about a 25 year period of time or so ("The Ten Commandments" and "Ben Hur" to name only two of the best of the many great films he did). I think the man also had one of the finest acting voices ever as well, just an incredible voice. He was one of the last of the great American "hero" actors, guys like John Wayne (and Heston's work in the Civil Rights movement and the protection of Constitutional rights for Americans were also noteworthy in his real-life as opposed to acting). You're right about one thing though, we won't have another actor like Heston because they aren't made like that anymore -- actors these days just can't compare to the actors/actresses from 30+ years ago for the most part (Kate Hepburn would have ripped someone like Angelina Jolie apart).

    3. I agree. It's a great series, and while I have some tremendous reservations about seeing any fake-looking CGI things running around on-screen (won't be seeing it if this is what's presented in any trailers) -- if the plotline is interesting and they can do a good story I'll probably check it out. The original is fantastic and most of the films in the series are pretty damn good too. It's a well-done sci-fi series.

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    Uggh, Planet of the Apes sequel? When are they gonna smarten up and make "Planet of the grapes"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    And yes....the extended cut is much more violent than the theatrical. Rather than the whole close up of Ceasar's "now we must put down our weapons" dialogue, you've got the original ending where they brutally kill all the humans. Real dark stuff.

    Even McDonald?

    I always found it wierd that in Battle he wasn't there, only a relative of his.

    Ceasar even drops his name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Even McDonald?
    McDonald is the only human left in the end.

    Rather than Ceasar telling the apes to stand down, they beat Breck's head in with their rifles.

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    Just finished watching Burton's remake. But, I really shouldn't have bothered. I'd never seen it before all the way through though. It's not a patch on the original. Even the makeup is somewhat subpar. Eyeliner and lipstick on the females? WTF? Helena B. Carter's chimp looks utterly ridiculous compared to Kim Hunter's from the original. But the gorrila makeup is great, as is the 60's version.

    The ape acting too is awful. Roth hams it up to the point of stupidity.

    Really though, compared to the original, this film was pretty terrible. Dreadful idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    McDonald is the only human left in the end.
    Yes i know.

    But my question was why wasn't he in the next installment? There's no explanation as to what happened to him.

    So perhaps your more violent director's cut included killing him as well. But i see that's not the case.

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    The new working title is Planet Of The Apes: Rise Of The Apes.

    "Described as an origin story, Planet of the Apes: Rise of the Apes is set in present day San Francisco and deals with the aftermath of man's experiments with genetic engineering that lead to the development of intelligence in apes and the onset of a war for supremacy."


    Sounds like they are trying to reboot the POTA franchise again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Yes i know.

    But my question was why wasn't he in the next installment? There's no explanation as to what happened to him.
    Sorry....I missed this until now. I could be mistaken, but Macdonald is in both films/edits. Just played by two different actors.

    Anyway....this reboot idea sounds horrible. CGI apes, "Rise of the Apes"? The only chance this thing has is if a good director is at the helm. The only two origin stories to have worked(imo) are Casino Royale and Batman Begins. Two out of hundreds isn't a good indication...

    I also read today that Don Cheadle is attached. I love Don Cheadle. Run Don, RUN AWAY!!!

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    Mr. MacDonald was Governor Breck's assistant in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. According to canon this character died sometime after the events in the film.

    In Battle for the Planet of the Apes it's actually supposed to be MacDonald's younger brother.

    (This is how the change in actors is explained. The real reason was the actor from the 4th film was unable to return for Battle).
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    Ceasar is being played by....King Kong? Well he's got experience, I guess...
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    Beware the Beast Man...



    Beware the beast, man, for he is the Devil's pawn. Alone among God's primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother's land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him, drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    Sorry....I missed this until now. I could be mistaken, but Macdonald is in both films/edits. Just played by two different actors.

    Anyway....this reboot idea sounds horrible. CGI apes, "Rise of the Apes"? The only chance this thing has is if a good director is at the helm. The only two origin stories to have worked(imo) are Casino Royale and Batman Begins. Two out of hundreds isn't a good indication...

    I also read today that Don Cheadle is attached. I love Don Cheadle. Run Don, RUN AWAY!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Eyebiter View Post
    Mr. MacDonald was Governor Breck's assistant in Conquest of the Planet of the Apes. According to canon this character died sometime after the events in the film.

    In Battle for the Planet of the Apes it's actually supposed to be MacDonald's younger brother.

    (This is how the change in actors is explained. The real reason was the actor from the 4th film was unable to return for Battle).

    Exactly.

    I can clearly remember Ceasar and McDonald in a hut Having a conversation about his brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    Ceasar is being played by....King Kong? Well he's got experience, I guess...
    What I wanna know is: Who's that girl further down the page?



    Ah..Intertube search sez Freida Pinto.

    So now I gotta rent Slumdog Millionaire...

    But Andy Serkis....He's gonna make the Ape film that much better.
    Those aren't real problems, Sam.


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    Yeah, she's the Slumdog girl. I'm not a fan of that picture, though. It doesn't do her justice.

    As for Serkis....I would rather he play the ape in costume. I know he'll do just fine with the motion capture, but i'm still not sold on the cgi apes. Kong worked because he was massive. But that same thing applied to a human-sized ape that walks among us? I dunno. If Smiegel or Gollum or whatever that guy was called is any indication....it's not convincing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
    What I wanna know is: Who's that girl further down the page?


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