 Originally Posted by DjfunkmasterG
it is just a firmware update...  
You keep telling yourself that. We'll see when the time comes.
Originally Posted by MinionZombie
Christ on a bike, how quickly did this thread descend (or "ascend" ... if you're horny) into sexual depravity? There's teats, and reach arounds, and sucking and all sorts going on up in here ... blimey!
HE STARTED IT! *points at Dj with a crooked finger*
Anyway. I saw HD in Currys a few months ago, and I simply don't see what the fuss is about. They had a display Blu-Ray & HD TV combo going on, and while I recognised a difference in the picture (the colours seemed to have a smidge more pop, and the sharpness of the image was sharper) ... I just didn't see that it was really all that important.
Keep in mind, MZ, that most of these stores don't have a single clue how to calibrate nor properly set up a TV/BR player combination. I've seen Best Buy here in the states where the BR player was hooked up to the TV and they were showing one of the Star Wars flicks in the wrong aspect ratio!  they had it squishing it down to 4:3 letterbox instead of 16x9.. WTF?!
Heck, rubbish quality even amplifies the experience - grindhouse flicks for example - or like when I was a teenager watching Texas Chainsaw Massacre on a 3rd generation dubbed VHS.
I can't help but laugh at people who buy Grindhouse on BR.. What's the freakin' point?!
Irrespective of visual and audio quality though, it's what's happening on screen that counts anyway, and as Lou was saying, you only get ones on BR that are worthwhile - frankly, if they're not putting out the best on BR constantly, then what are some jokers up to?
Using the master to the original standard def DVD pressing and slapping it on a blu-gay disc. No idea why the hell anyone would bother, but they do. Sometimes they'll do edge enchancement and make it even worse, but, that's what some of these cheap-assed companies will do to make a buck. You REALLY have to search out reviews from the real audiophiles & videophiles to pick out the best of the bunch of the Blu-Rays. Like I said, the remaster of Wizard of Oz is UNBELIEVEABLE as well as a few other flicks, but many BR releases - I'm looking at you, Columbia, and you're FUCKED release of Last Action Hero on BR! - are not worthy of the DVD-to-BR upgrade.
As for all the nonsense and expense that goes along with HD, if they want mass-pick-up by the public, they're going to have to make it:
1) Cheap.
Players have come down VERY far in price here in the US - not sure about over there in the UK. I'm still not happy with some movies being priced at $20-25USD, but most are on the cheap when you buy them the first week of release.
At this point, I believe it is pretty simple. Aside from that online bullshit and their "BD Live" which is COMPLETELY WORTHLESS at this point.
3) Reliable and long-running.
"long-running" will never happen - not with the new 128gb 4-layer BR discs that Dj thinks his P$3 will play with just a "firmware upgrade"  But I think that's the case with most technology. We got a good run with standard def DVD's, but that was a rarity when Moore's Law is in effect.
I don't know where Bassman is shopping though, BR's are always more expensive - be they online or in a shop - and a BR player, or one that's worthwhile getting for quality and longevity, is a damn sight more expensive than a good, solid, reliable DVD player (which you could get for £30). The cheapest BR player I've seen is about £100 - but it's a shit basic one with no longevity in its future, nor much in the way of tech - so it'd be 100 quid down the shitter.
Well, here in the states, like I said above, during the week of release, most BR's are cheap. Usually less than $15 USD. I'm not sure what's up with the area around you, but if you ever want a cheap R1 BR player, ask and ye shall recieve from an anonymous US donor. 
What's the big fucking deal?
When you see The Thing in HD on a 40"+ screen for the first time, you will immediately stop asking that question.
I used to think PQ was irrelevant to me too dude - I used to be "nothing but audio" - if a flick didn't have a DTS track on it, I was pissed - that is until I started see some of these REALLY good HD transfers. That made the difference for me because I could actually see a significant difference. 
I've never thought "wow, what a memorable viewing experience cos it's so sharp".
Mainly because we haven't been spoiled with HD content as of yet. Once you're exposed to it and see it's true capabilites, you'll never turn back.
Put it this way - I have a bunch of HD channels on Verizon FiOS - when I sit down to watch the telly for the evening, guess what channels I scan first? It isn't the 800 channels of standard def shit, it's the HD channels first, then the SD stuff. It wasn't until Dj and I were on the phone one day and I told him I did that, and he said "I do too" - then I realized, FUCK! I've been infected with the goddamn HD virus and like HIV, it's incurable! lol
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