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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyRay View Post
    Wait....

    What were we just talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyRay
    Wait....

    What were we just talking about?
    I think someone said something about brownies, but I can't remember...

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    Re-posting this in an actual thread, man....




    It's like that Rush song about the trees, man....

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    THE TREES ARE,

    like,

    US, MAN!!...
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    This is one of the most prudish countries in the world when it comes to legislation.

    We get all up in arms about social issues that don't really affect us.

    If some one wants to smoke weed how the hell is that affecting me?

    If someone wants to be gay and marry their partner or have an abortion for instance, how the hell is that my problem?

    Who the hell cares? Yet elections turn on crap like this.

    Un fucking believable.

    FEAR IS THE OLDEST TOOL OF POWER. IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY THE FEAR OF THOSE AROUND US THEN IT KEEPS US FROM SEEING THE ACTIONS OF THOSE ABOVE US.

    I DIDN'T KILL NOBODY. I DIDN'T RAPE NOBODY. THAT'S IT. ~ Manny Ramirez commenting on his use of a banned substance.

    "We kill people who kill people to show people that killing people is wrong" ~ Unknown

    "TO DOUBT EVERYTHING OR TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING ARE TWO EQUALLY CONVIENIENT SOLUTIONS: THEY BOTH DISPENSE WITH THE NEED FOR THOUGHT"

    "All i care about is money and the city that I'm from, imma sip until I feel it, Imma smoke it till' it's done, I don't really give fuck and my excuse is that I'm young,and I'm only getting older, sombody shoulda told ya, I'm on one !"

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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    This is one of the most prudish countries in the world when it comes to legislation.
    While we do tend towards some heavy-handedness on a lot of these so-called morality issues, I think marijuana is still illegal in a majority of 1st world countries.

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    But what if you smoked a bowl and then ate normal brownies - good lord man, you're baking pot brownies in your turd oven!


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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    But what if you smoked a bowl and then ate normal brownies - good lord man, you're baking pot brownies in your turd oven!

    Only from the mind of MZ!

    FEAR IS THE OLDEST TOOL OF POWER. IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY THE FEAR OF THOSE AROUND US THEN IT KEEPS US FROM SEEING THE ACTIONS OF THOSE ABOVE US.

    I DIDN'T KILL NOBODY. I DIDN'T RAPE NOBODY. THAT'S IT. ~ Manny Ramirez commenting on his use of a banned substance.

    "We kill people who kill people to show people that killing people is wrong" ~ Unknown

    "TO DOUBT EVERYTHING OR TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING ARE TWO EQUALLY CONVIENIENT SOLUTIONS: THEY BOTH DISPENSE WITH THE NEED FOR THOUGHT"

    "All i care about is money and the city that I'm from, imma sip until I feel it, Imma smoke it till' it's done, I don't really give fuck and my excuse is that I'm young,and I'm only getting older, sombody shoulda told ya, I'm on one !"

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    I have never tried laced brownies. Is there really a diffrence compared to smoking?

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    This debate has nothing to do with legalization. It's all about taxes.

    As in the government doesn't want it to happen unless they can get their cut.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eyebiter View Post
    This debate has nothing to do with legalization. It's all about taxes.

    As in the government doesn't want it to happen unless they can get their cut.
    Just like everything else. I have no problem with that.

    Whats the hold up man !?!

    FEAR IS THE OLDEST TOOL OF POWER. IF WE ARE DISTRACTED BY THE FEAR OF THOSE AROUND US THEN IT KEEPS US FROM SEEING THE ACTIONS OF THOSE ABOVE US.

    I DIDN'T KILL NOBODY. I DIDN'T RAPE NOBODY. THAT'S IT. ~ Manny Ramirez commenting on his use of a banned substance.

    "We kill people who kill people to show people that killing people is wrong" ~ Unknown

    "TO DOUBT EVERYTHING OR TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING ARE TWO EQUALLY CONVIENIENT SOLUTIONS: THEY BOTH DISPENSE WITH THE NEED FOR THOUGHT"

    "All i care about is money and the city that I'm from, imma sip until I feel it, Imma smoke it till' it's done, I don't really give fuck and my excuse is that I'm young,and I'm only getting older, sombody shoulda told ya, I'm on one !"

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    I honestly think if the stuff was really as harmless as the legalise crowd make it out to be, it would already be just as legal & just as taxed as tobacco & booze are. Like I said earlier after smoking it fairly heavily for around a year in my late teens, I had some paranoia & it started my anxiety problems so I stopped smoking the stuff & havent since, but I dont doubt if I'd carried on I'd have ended up with a psychosis. It doesnt happen to everyone, and granted some people are more vulnerable to mental problems than others, but without a sure fire way of screening for that, does it really present a case to make it available to everyone? its like playing russian roulette with your mind. Plus in my own experience, most teens who start smoking it do so in such a way that they get absolutely off their box everytime! We never did it by halves, we'd have fat joints with hardly any baccy in rolled up ready to smoke, while taking huge deep breaths from a bong packed full of strong resin, we werent smoking to chill, we were smoking to get battered, and thats at an age when the mind is most vulnerable.

    If cannabis is safe, why am I psychotic?

    The following is a short excerpt from a very long story in the January, 04 article in "The Times of London "

    THERE WAS SOMETHING horribly fast and terribly chilling about the onset of Steve Hammond's psychosis. His father Terry remembers feeling a shiver down his spine when, sitting in front of the television, Steve turned to him with a strange look in his eyes and said: "Why did you ring up the BBC?"

    "Of course, I told him I hadn't," Terry recalls. "But then Steve said: 'Yes you did. You rang them up and told them I'm a lazy, useless bastard. And they've been broadcasting it all day.'"

    This was the start of three years of hell for the Hammond family; three years during which Steve, a bright, handsome and popular 22-year-old, descended into madness and despair. For Terry it was the moment when he first saw the illness for himself. For Steve it was a frightening repeat of an episode a few days earlier when, with no papers to roll a joint, he ate a chunk of cannabis resin and collapsed in a nightclub toilet. "When I woke up I heard someone saying: 'It's OK Steve, you can get up now, you're all right'," he recalls. "When I looked around, there was no one there.

    "That's when my voices started and I've had them ever since. I was so scared you can't imagine. I had voices coming from everywhere - the ceiling, the floor, in my head. It was the most frightening nightmare you could imagine, except I was awake."

    Steve is one of 210,000 people in the UK who suffer from schizophrenia, and one of a growing number who believe cannabis caused their condition. Ten years ago psychiatrists would have disagreed with him. But three weeks before the Government is due to reclassify cannabis from a Class B to a Class C drug, that view has changed dramatically. Some of Britain's most senior psychiatrists say the drug is now the "No 1 problem" facing mental health services. Psychiatrists in inner-city areas speak of cannabis being a factor in up to 80 per cent of schizophrenia cases, and mental health specialists are bracing themselves for an increase in the problem as reclassification is misinterpreted as an assurance that the drug is safe.

    For years psychiatrists have noticed a high level of cannabis use among people with psychosis, a generic term for schizophrenia, delusional episodes, manic depression and so on. But it had always been regarded as a chicken and egg problem; sufferers tended to have behavioural problems as adolescents and were more likely to use drugs to counter their often miserable lives. But all that changed two years ago when a group of researchers had the idea of relating cannabis and psychosis to the Dunedin group, a continuing long-term study of 1,000 children - now adults - in New Zealand. They found that those who used cannabis by the age of 15 were more than three times (i.e. 300% higher) as likely to develop illnesses such as schizophrenia.

    Robin Murray, a professor at the Institute of Psychiatry and a consultant psychiatrist at the Maudsley Hospital in South London, took part in the groundbreaking research that first solved the chicken-and-egg problem. His co-authored report, published a year ago, concluded: "Although most young people use cannabis without harm, a vulnerable minority experience harmful outcomes. A tenth of the cannabis users by age 15 in our sample developed schizophreniform disorder by age 26 compared with 3 per cent of the remaining cohort. Our findings suggest that cannabis use among psychologically vulnerable adolescents should be strongly discouraged by parents, teachers, and health practitioners. Policy makers and lawmakers should concentrate on delaying onset of cannabis use."

    In an interview with The Times, Professor Murray adds: "Unfortunately there were no experts in psychosis on the committees (the Home Affairs select committee and the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs) that advised the Government on re-classifying cannabis. That's not a criticism - at the time, no one thought there should have been. Since then there have been at least four studies that show the use of cannabis can significantly increase the likelihood of the onset of psychosis.

    "I would say this is now the No 1 problem facing the mental health services in inner cities. In south London the incidence of psychosis has doubled since 1964. There is a terrible drain on resources. Not only are there people suffering from psychosis who would not be in in-patient beds if they were not using cannabis, but use of the drug also drastically reduces the chances of recovery. People who do improve go out on the streets, meet their old dealer, begin using the drug again and relapse. We're not saying that the Government shouldn't reclassify cannabis - for most people it causes no problems - but I am saying that if they're going to do it they should warn people of the possible downside."

    Thats quite an old article, and since then cannabis has been re-classified as a class B drug due to those very reasons...

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    Quote Originally Posted by slickwilly13 View Post
    I have never tried laced brownies. Is there really a diffrence compared to smoking?
    Yes. The THC effect is stronger when it goes to your stomach and your high is longer and more intense. If you get a medical brownie or something, They put in an Indica strain rather than a sativa because Indica strains give you a body high and that is better for most patients suffering from body injuries and disorders.

    I have never had food with pot in it, but I heard you can't eat too much or you will be in a bad place lol.

    I suggest that everyone interested in Marijuana and legalizing it should check out "Barry Cooper's Never Get Busted" and "Never Get Busted Again" videos. He is an ex narc agent that teaches you how to out smart the police and not get caught with marijuana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fulci fan View Post
    If you get a medical brownie or something,
    ......

    "medical.brownie."

    only in america i guess.


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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    We get all up in arms about social issues that don't really affect us.

    If some one wants to smoke weed how the hell is that affecting me?

    If someone wants to be gay and marry their partner or have an abortion for instance, how the hell is that my problem?
    One of these things is not like the others. Those who oppose abortion do so because they believe it does directly and fatally affect the interests of another human.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eyebiter View Post
    This debate has nothing to do with legalization. It's all about taxes.

    As in the government doesn't want it to happen unless they can get their cut.
    If it's all about taxes, what's keeping the government from legalizing and taxing the heck out of it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by darth los View Post
    Only from the mind of MZ!

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