"The Hobbit" (film)

[Neil]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-11417340

[bassman]

Probably for the best. After Del Toro dropped out I lost all interest anyway. With Jackson it will just be another four and half hours of walking, only to give the audience fifteen anticlimactic endings.... Jackson's best work was earlier in his career.

[Neil]

Probably for the best. After Del Toro dropped out I lost all interest anyway. With Jackson it will just be another four and half hours of walking, only to give the audience fifteen anticlimactic endings.... Jackson's best work was earlier in his career. Some would disagree with that opinion of course *puts hand up in air*

[bassman]

Yeah, I realize I would be in the minority with that opinion. Just never could get on the LOTR bandwagon. Over hyped CGI circle jerks. Liked his version of King Kong, though. Frighteners and Heavenly Creatures still remain his best work.

[DjfunkmasterG]

Thank God... This probably would have sucked anyway. Sorry, but LOTR was boring drivel, and honestly the fantasy BS has worn out its welcome... especially after the boring as hell Pocohantas rip off known as AVATRASH... I mean AVATAR

[Neil]

Will those of you with an unfounded, unfair, extreme and/or polarised opinion, please form a queue above... Thank you!

[DjfunkmasterG]

Will those of you with an unfounded, unfair, extreme and/or polarised opinion, please form a queue above... Thank you! How is my opinion unfounded? I am not the only one in the world that shares that opinion.

[bassman]

How is my opinion unfounded? I am not the only one in the world that shares that opinion. But Neil does not share that opinion. Therefore you are WRONG, sir!

[AcesandEights]

Will those of you with an unfounded, unfair, extreme and/or polarised opinion, please form a queue above... Thank you! The LOTRO movies were great (for the most part--green ghost CGI spolsion =) for those who like that sort of thing (except really picayune nerds). The great things about movies that aren't your thing...you don't have to watch them!

[BillyRay]

If you don't dig the movies, then read the book.

[Neil]

But Neil does not share that opinion. Therefore you are WRONG, sir! Not at all... What we seem to see here is the kind of reaction I can't fathom. If we consider the LOTR trilogy, there's no denying they were incredibly well made and original films. The outcome of that film making may not have been to some people's liking, but to then dismiss them as "boring drivel" for example, just seems unfair in the extreme! Next, "Avatar". Yes, the story was simplistic in some ways, but again, it was fairly solid and original piece of film making in many ways. So to dismiss it as, "AVATRASH" (in capitals) just comes across as juvenile and unfair really. In short, I have no problem with someone not enjoying any of the films being discussed. It's when it goes beyond that and we simply enter the realms of irrational, polarised opinions I find I start questioning the logic behind the thought process? "Boring drivel" equates to 1/10 to me? "AVATRASH" (in capitals) similarly equate to something in the same area... Really? That bad? Really? Or are we seeing knee-jerk opinions without any rationale in there?

[AcesandEights]

Well and rationally said, Sir!

[bassman]

Hey....I didn't say boring drivel or Avatrash. Why you quoting me? WTF dude? Avatrash is a bit harsh, but I can see why DJ thinks LOTR is boring. I agree with that. It doesn't mean they're necessarily horrible films, just that we find them to be boring. I've got a friend that was bored to tears with Ben Hur, but that doesn't mean he thinks it's awful. I wouldn't say the LOTR films are awful, they're just not my cup of tea. Then again....there are alot of people out there that think if they don't enjoy a film, that automatically makes it the worst film ever. Quite often not the case. *cough*LAND*cough*.

[Neil]

Hey....I didn't say boring drivel or Avatrash. Why you quoting me? WTF dude? Avatrash is a bit harsh, but I can see why DJ thinks LOTR is boring. I agree with that. It doesn't mean they're necessarily horrible films, just that we find them to be boring. I've got a friend that was bored to tears with Ben Hur, but that doesn't mean he thinks it's awful. I wouldn't say the LOTR films are awful, they're just not my cup of tea. Then again....there are alot of people out there that think if they don't enjoy a film, that automatically makes it the worst film ever. Quite often not the case. *cough*LAND*cough*. Those particular quotes were not from you I apologize if I jumped at peoples throats, but I get really narked by people really bashing something unfairly simply because it wasn't their cup of tea (as you put it).... There are loads of truly terrible bits of work out there far FAR worse than anything discussed in this thread, yet those will not get half the diatribe aimed at them. And let's remember, one word levelled at LOTR in this thread was "drivel"? How is that in anyway fair or considered? Really? It just reaks of a binary opinion. I didn't like it, so it was "trash" or "drivel!" Never mind the gargantuan production task. Never mind the gargantuan writing task. Never mind the gargantuan filming task. Never mind that so very many aspects of it worked well.... Nope... "drivel"...

[bassman]

And let's remember, one word levelled at LOTR in this thread was "drivel"? How is that in anyway fair or considered? Really? It just reaks of a binary opinion. I didn't like it, so it was "trash" or "drivel!" Never mind the gargantuan production task. Never mind the gargantuan writing task. Never mind the gargantuan filming task. Never mind that so very many aspects of it worked well.... Nope... "drivel"... I understand what you're getting at but at the same time HOW a film is made shouldn't really effect how one enjoys the final product. I can appreciate that it was a HUGE task for Jackson & Co, but if the final product puts me to sleep....well....it's boring. Regardless of the sleepless nights the filmmakers poured into it. Then on the other hand, as you pointed out, I wouldn't call it "drivel" or the worst film series ever. I would much rather watch the LOTR trilogy than some other things, but every time I do....I end up checking my watch hoping for it to end. I think I would probably have enjoyed it more if they weren't quite as long. And I'm talking about the theatrical cuts! No way I will watch the extended cuts...