TWD: Racist and Dumb

**Thorn** · 01-Dec-2010

Originally Posted by Gemini

This article is sad but true.

How many here truly love the series for its content, and how many here love the series simply because of the genre it's representing? That's not rhetorical, I would love feedback on that.

Overall for me it's had its ups and downs but has dropped off steeply in terms of quality since the debut. They were not even planning for a second season when they filmed this first one. Maybe with a bigger budget and a better effort knowing it is a hit series, season 2 will knock our socks off?

I guess I do not understand how you separate the two? That said human dram DOES interest me, take Lost for example the relationships, the personalities, the conflicts really made that show amazing (in my opinion) that said the back drop and setting made the show what it was. Human dram is inherently interesting to me, but I wouldn't watch a soap opera the back drop and setting have little appeal.

The key here is that the end of the world and the threat of being eaten is a catalyst and it drives and motivates these character and it is one that fascinates me.

**Danny** · 01-Dec-2010

Originally Posted by Thorn

The key here is that the end of the world and the threat of being eaten is a catalyst and it drives and motivates these character and it is one that fascinates me.

Thing is they have less and less interaction with the zombies as it goes on, during the prison arc you only saw them as squiggles and blurs in the background and it was all about the people, hell, the title of the comic and show has nothing to do with the zombies at all. This is a drama about people, not a never ending zombie survival wet dream many seem to be expecting.

That said the last episode deviated so damn far from the comics i wouldnt be surprised to see the usual "someones been bitten!" bullshit once ever few episodes between two grown men arguing behind a door for an episode.

**Thorn** · 01-Dec-2010

Originally Posted by hellsing

Thing is they have less and less interaction with the zombies as it goes on, during the prison arc you only saw them as squiggles and blurs in the background and it was all about the people, hell, the title of the comic and show has nothing to do with the zombies at all. This is a drama about people, not a never ending zombie survival wet dream many seem to be expecting.

That said the last episode deviated so damn far from the comics i wouldnt be surprised to see the usual "someones been bitten!" bullshit once ever few episodes between two grown men arguing behind a door for an episode.

Actually as a fan of the comic I always thought the title referred to the survivors as much as the zombies.

Oh and great points Trin I couldn't agree more.

**Trin** · 01-Dec-2010

I won't say I watch it because it's in the zombie genre. There are tons of zombie things I don't have any interest in. And I won't say I watch if for the characer interactions. Sure, they can make or break it, but if that's ALL it were about I could just as easily tape soap operas all day long.

I love it because it's post-apocalyptic survival. It scratches that "what would you do" itch of seeing the world collapse and the ensuing struggle for survival in an empty, dangerous world. It's the same thing that makes I Am Legend or 28 Days/Weeks or The Stand so intriguing. It's the situation that grabbed my attention and keeps me coming back.

**clanglee** · 01-Dec-2010

Originally Posted by Trin

I won't say I watch it because it's in the zombie genre. There are tons of zombie things I don't have any interest in. And I won't say I watch if for the characer interactions. Sure, they can make or break it, but if that's ALL it were about I could just as easily tape soap operas all day long.

I love it because it's post-apocalyptic survival. It scratches that "what would you do" itch of seeing the world collapse and the ensuing struggle for survival in an empty, dangerous world. It's the same thing that makes I Am Legend or 28 Days/Weeks or The Stand so intriguing. It's the situation that grabbed my attention and keeps me coming back.

Exactly. . . .although. . . .Zombies are my favorite of the "apocalypse" types of movies.

**Thorn** · 02-Dec-2010

Originally Posted by clanglee

Exactly. . . .although. . . .Zombies are my favorite of the "apocalypse" types of movies.

Agreed for sure. I have often tried to figure out why. Was it my initial fear as a child as I watched my first zombie movie? Is it the fear of humans being prey? Fear of death? The thought of an enemy that gets stronger as you get weaker and how that just seems so unbeatable? I am not sure, but I love me some zombies

**Trin** · 02-Dec-2010

I figure there are a couple of things driving this. First, the post apocalyptic feel was done very well by Night/Dawn/Day and some others like Return (which, yes, I hate). Take those movies out of the picture and ask yourself whether the zombie genre holds the same special place.

Second, look at the nature of the world in a zombie apocalypse. The world is essentially not any more dangerous today than it was yesterday. You don't have nuclear radiation or biological infection making you scared to leave your house. Those things would be too scary to place yourself in the situation. A lot of post-apocalypse survival is just too daunting to imagine.

Third, look at your competition in that world. You have a radically reduced population, near extinction levels, which results in free reign over anything and everything you can conquer. Who doesn't imagine having the entire city of resources and stuff for their personal playground? It's all right there if you can take it. Dawn tapped into that. So did some other movies like Legend. But plenty of smaller zombie movies didn't tap into that, and they are not scratching the itch.

And finally, the zombies. They are scary. But they are manageable. They aren't like vampires or a killer virus or high-tech space aliens where you just have no chance in a head-on fight. They are weak individually. They are stupid (or are supposed to be). They can be easily thwarted. It's the ultimate every-man opponent. You don't have to be Rambo to fight them.