Ahh, religion and ignorance at its modern day best!

[Neil]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...an-killer.html

[krisvds]

Sad. A disgusting start to the new year. Considering that Pakistan is a demographic timebomb as well as a haven for extremists, things are once again looking pretty grim for the future.

[darth los]

Sad. A disgusting start to the new year. Considering that Pakistan is a demographic timebomb as well as a haven for extremists, things are once again looking pretty grim for the future. Well, Glad to see that whole "war on terror" thing that has bankrupted this country has paid off.

[Neil]

well, glad to see that whole "war on terror" thing that has bankrupted this country has paid off. lol!!!

[EvilNed]

Sometimes it feels like we live in the 17th century and not the 21st.

[blind2d]

Yeah... were it not for the technology, and all that stuff...

[Mr. Clean]

Religion can be a scary thing but personally I believe if more people lived by the golden rule then the world would be a much better place weither you believe in a God or not. Too many people caught up in themselves or their actions to even give a shit about someone driving a vehicle behind them.

[EvilNed]

I understand that religion is not a choice, an ironic trait shared by homosexuality, and one cannot choose to stop believing in god. But I do think that most need to at least do some fact checking and start thinking outside their box.

[Neil]

Religion can be a scary thing but personally I believe if more people lived by the golden rule then the world would be a much better place weither you believe in a God or not. Too many people caught up in themselves or their actions to even give a shit about someone driving a vehicle behind them. You're talking about ethics and morality, which in itself has nothing to really do with religion as such. ie: There's no reason why folks can behave nicely to each other and yet not believe in a God.

[AcesandEights]

You're talking about ethics and morality, which in itself has nothing to really do with religion as such. ie: There's no reason why folks can behave nicely to each other and yet not believe in a God. I agree. “Ethical Culture is religious to those who are religiously minded, and merely ethical to those who are not so minded.” --Felix Adler, speaking on the Ethical Culture movement

[darth los]

Don't know what it is but ethics, morals and manners are at a premium now days. It's seems that people in general are very mean and couldn't care less about something unless it affects them or someone they love directly.

[JDFP]

I understand that religion is not a choice, an ironic trait shared by homosexuality, and one cannot choose to stop believing in god. But I do think that most need to at least do some fact checking and start thinking outside their box. Religion after the age of accountability is certainly a choice -- me thinks. Someone may be pre-disposed to a specific religion (i.e. their parents being a certain faith) -- but there's a difference between being culturally pre-disposed towards something and actively partaking/participating. Someone can be born into a Baptist family -- it doesn't mean that person will be a Baptist even though they are culturally pre-disposed to being the same as their family. Religion is only outside an individual's personal choice when they are too young to have no say in the matter -- after the age of accountability (which varies from different cultures and societies) it's all about a matter of choosing to believe and follow a religious path and/or not. It's all about choice after that point. I choose to be Catholic because it makes the most sense to me -- it was not forced upon me (in fact, I'm the only Catholic in my very Baptist family). Of course, most people won't ever bother to think for themselves in differing what their parents and/or peers believed when they were being raised which is a shame. In this matter, I agree 100% with you that people need to start thinking outside their box. I'm not even going to start in on the homosexuality thing as being a choice or not because it will only prove to start raising people here coming after my throat (which I prefer non-bloody) -- but needless to say I would disagree with some's thoughts on the matter. j.p.

[Mr. Clean]

You're talking about ethics and morality, which in itself has nothing to really do with religion as such. ie: There's no reason why folks can behave nicely to each other and yet not believe in a God. True enough I'm wasn't saying religion dictates weither your a good person or a bad person but most religions are built around good ethics and morals. The golden rule isn't a religious only concept. ---------- Post added at 12:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:15 PM ---------- I understand that religion is not a choice, an ironic trait shared by homosexuality, and one cannot choose to stop believing in god. But I do think that most need to at least do some fact checking and start thinking outside their box. I disagree, religion and sexuality is indeed a choice. People flip flop on both topics all the time. Couples sometimes get a divorce and one of people pursue a relationship with someone of the same gender afterward. EDIT: Guess I opened the can of worms that JDFP wanted to avoid. I once had a gay boss who did what I said in the above statement. He got married and had kids or a kid not sure which one it was but after 10 years or so him and his wife split and he became gay afterwards. This is why I have the opinion that I do.

[BillyRay]

I was Just reading something about this. "10 things Athiests and Christians can (and must) agree on": http://www.cracked.com/article_15759...-agree-on.html Rationality and Faith can work hand in hand. Militant Fundimentalism, of any stripe, helps no one.

[JDFP]

I disagree, religion and sexuality is indeed a choice. People flip flop on both topics all the time. Couples sometimes get a divorce and one of people pursue a relationship with someone of the same gender afterward. Well said. And agreed. j.p.