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    Sep 11th, the tenth anniversary

    Hard to believe it's ten years!

    Personally, I'm going to put aside Sunday evening, and watch United 93. It's a film I know will upset me, hence me not having watched it yet! But I feel it's my own little way of paying homage to the people who went through that nightmare.
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    There's been a flood of coverage here in the States all week. As expected, some of it is still incredibly chilling. I continue to get emotional hearing and seeing these things that i've seen basically non-stop for ten years. It still feels like it just happened.

    Now there are 'credible' reports that there will be some form of an anniversary attack within the next few days. Let's hope the government has it under control and we don't have more innocent lives lost. Sunday will definitely be a somber day. Even more so for people in the cities that witnessed it first hand and lost family and friends.

    I think you'll enjoy United 93, Neil. It's of course upsetting in some ways, but it also makes you proud for the people on that plane and what they did to try and save lives.
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    Like Bass says it still feels like it only happened very recently, I cant believe that was 10 years ago now! I still remember I'd only just started working after leaving college when it happened, and I went round my grandmas after work and the footage showing the planes hitting the towers was on the news, I thought for a couple of minutes that it was the trailer for some new action film, then I suddenly realised it was actually happening. That one event has changed so much about the world since then, the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan, Bin laden and Al Qeada on the news all the time, all the restrictions on flights now, the hundreds of thousands of people both ISAF and civilian who have died as a result of the wars triggered by 9/11, and the paranoia is still lingering. 10 years, crazy how the time goes....

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    I've been watching a bunch of the documentaries currently doing the rounds on various channels at the moment as my way of respecting the anniversary. It's still to this day just incredible - and hearing stories from the people who were there and who lost loved ones, it's harrowing stuff ... immensely chilling.

    My experience of September 11th, freshly into the Upper Sixth Form, was one of the girls in our year passing by saying "a plane's just gone into the Twin Towers", and those of us there didn't pay it an awful lot of attention, we responded with a sort of un-knowing "how random", as we were all thinking of that time a small plane flew into the Empire State Building.

    Then our history teacher was curiously late to the lesson, but said absolutely nothing to us (strangely) ... and it wasn't until I went home and saw on the TV (I believe I walked in just as a bit of footage of one of the towers collapsing was being re-run on the news) that I just went "what the fuck?!" ... the next day we'd all naturally been watching the news like crazy the night before, and we were pouring over newspapers that people bought (indeed I've saved a few newspapers from September 12th) and it was all pretty strange.

    I guess it took a long time to really 'get' what was going on and what had actually happened, and in each year that follows - when anniversary programming comes up, and you see a little bit more of the story of that day - you are haunted by it more and more, and as you get older at the same time, you understand the impact of it more and more. As a 17 year old in the sixth form it was pretty hard to understand the true scale - it was just so bizarre and incomprehensible to all of us.

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    I dont know why and its daft really, but this song always makes me think of 9/11, it was being played a lot on MTV in the months running up to it and listening to it makes me think of how innocent the world seemed to me at that brief time, and how it seemed to change overnight after the attacks, weird


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    Evidently, 9/11 makes eagles cry.
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    the thing i remember most about 9/11 is that i was on my way out the door to work when my wife yelled out, "a plane just hit the world trade center!" my reply was, "well, a bomber flew into the empire state building during WWII on accident. i'll see you later."

    then i get to work and find out that it was no accident.
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    u ever wonder why it took 10 years to rebuild and they're not done yet. im sure theres ground to air something or other in that immediate vicinity in case this ever happens again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamLynch View Post


    Evidently, 9/11 makes eagles cry.
    Something about that pic disturbs me - but I was reminded of the Budweiser commercial tribute to 9/11 that, in spite of being a corporate attempt to cash in on a tragedy was actually well done - and apparently done by Hack Snyder too! I am torn between hating the commercial for being evil and being moved by it.

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    Hm. I don't know. It's hard to feel anything. I mean... For me personally, and how old when I was when it happened... It seems like such a long time ago. I... I do feel sad for all the people who died. I do. I'm not a monster.
    But... Am I going to watch any specials? Or have a vigil? Or something like that? No. No I won't. Because... then, in maybe just some small way... to me... the terrorists win, since none of my family or friends were killed in the attack.
    Just my outlook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Hard to believe it's ten years!

    Personally, I'm going to put aside Sunday evening, and watch United 93. It's a film I know will upset me, hence me not having watched it yet! But I feel it's my own little way of paying homage to the people who went through that nightmare.
    I still can't watch it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blind2d View Post
    Hm. I don't know. It's hard to feel anything. I mean... For me personally, and how old when I was when it happened... It seems like such a long time ago. I... I do feel sad for all the people who died. I do. I'm not a monster.
    But... Am I going to watch any specials? Or have a vigil? Or something like that? No. No I won't. Because... then, in maybe just some small way... to me... the terrorists win, since none of my family or friends were killed in the attack.
    Just my outlook.
    I hear you, brother blind. Everyone was affected in their own personal way and everyone needs to remember what happened and deal with it in their own personal way. In my book, you need to do what you think should be done. If that means to go about your daily business then that's ok too.

    When I was younger, ten years seemed to me to be a mega-long-ass time. But I was married on September 7, 2001 and was on my honeymoon on September 11th and saw the world change from a hotel suite tv in Las Vegas. I went outside with my new wife and found the casinos to be nearly empty, the streets deserted, the televisions in the sports bars all turned to the news, the airports shut down, and everyone grim and angry and sad and confused behind our common mask of a serious looking expression suggestive of both determination and loss. It was a scary time indeed, and my new wife and I knew that everything had changed and nothing would ever be the same as it had been.

    Having just celebrated my 10 year wedding anniversary, I am amazed at how quickly the years have rushed past me and flown by. It is as if I got married last month, and I remember 9/11 like it was yesterday.

    Let me say though for me, much like you, I won't be watching any specials, attending any vigils, won't be buying into any corporate exploitation of the pain of a nation for petty fiscal gain or partisan political posturing. If others choose to do so, I am sure that it is for their own good personal reasons. And to do so doesn't necessarily mean that the terrorists are winning either in as much as it means that lots of folks wish to show that they haven't forgotten how the terrorists have changed the world for all of us. And by that I mean all of us - me and you included, brother, regardless of how we choose to memorialize or not to memorialize what had happened.

    I don't know how old you were when it happened, nor does it matter how old you were. For me, I am old enough to remember a more simple, maybe a much more naive time before this all went down. Though I didn't know it at the time, it was and is a much more naive and simple world that I now dearly miss. Since we all live now in the same state of affairs in this same place where we are all a little less naive now, that is so much less simple than it had been before and has now become ever so much more complex - you, me, our brothers and sisters here on HPTOD, our volunteer armed forces who are risking their lives to defend us, cops & firemen, methodists & atheists, faux hipsters and junkie poets - all of us people everywhere - we are all in this space together.

    My biggest fear is that the younger generations, not being old enough to remember how it was before this shit all went down, will grow up thinking that this is all just a figment of status quo, that the way it is now is the way it always was and always will be, and that the entire business is a mundane part of the normal routine of life. And if that happens, then the terrorists do have alegitimate victory to claim as theirs, however small that may be. And for the sake of all those lives lost, we should strive to make sure that is not the case.
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    This is a moving 12 minute documentary i've just seen on TV. It's sort of an "untold story" of 9/11. When Manhattan was on lockdown with no way to leave the island, ordinary boaters came to the rescue in what became the largest sea evacuation in history. Narrated by Tom Hanks.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDOrzF7B2Kg
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    ^^ Wow!
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    I'd like to give a long overdue thanks to Neil and the other UK members for always aknowledging the attacks on our country on these boards.

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