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    Darabont recently did an interview with TVGuide about his new show, LA Noir. Of course, he was asked about TWD and he basically confirms what we've already heard - he was forced to leave.

    TV Guide Magazine: What can you say about your departure from The Walking Dead?

    Darabont: It was, for the sake of my cast and my crew, a tremendously regretful thing to face, to have to leave. But I was really given no choice. I don't understand the thinking behind, "Oh, this is the most successful show in the history of basic cable. Let's gut the budgets now." I never did understand that and I think they got tired of hearing me complain about it. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's as far as I want to go with it because otherwise it's just provoking more controversy and that's not really of interest to me. I just want to keep my head down and do my job and be allowed to do my job, that's key, and continue to, hopefully, enjoy it and do good work.

    TV Guide Magazine: From all accounts, your departure was particularly hard on the cast and crew.

    Darabont:
    These people are like family to me. It has not been easy for anybody. Let me put it that way: It was like a death in the family. Only I was the dead guy. I felt like William Holden, face down in the swimming pool, narrating this thing.

    TV Guide Magazine: There was never really an official explanation about your exit.

    Darabont:
    It was a lot of obfuscation and on my end just maintaining what I thought was the most dignified silence that I could. Who needs a cat fight in the press, oy vey. There's plenty of stuff in this world that I'm excited about doing, and how lovely that we're getting the opportunity to do this with TNT. How great is that.
    It also sounds like TNT knew a good thing when they saw it and jumped at the opportunity. Let's hope they treat him better than AMC....
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    Well surely, just purely on the issue of budgets, they'll pump some more cash into the show for season 3. The show has been hugely successful - so it deserves some more scratch to play with.

    Now did someone say that Darabont is still involved - to an extent at least - as an Exec Producer? I thought he was just out-right gone ... I'm a tad confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    Well surely, just purely on the issue of budgets, they'll pump some more cash into the show for season 3. The show has been hugely successful - so it deserves some more scratch to play with.
    You'd think they would give it more cash, but they obviously cut it down for season two after the first season was already the highest viewed show on television....

    Now did someone say that Darabont is still involved - to an extent at least - as an Exec Producer? I thought he was just out-right gone ... I'm a tad confused.
    From what I've read, they say he's still on as an executive producer. That could be misinformation, or possibly AMC is keeping his name on the credits for fans and tossing him a few bucks even though he's not participating?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    From what I've read, they say he's still on as an executive producer. That could be misinformation, or possibly AMC is keeping his name on the credits for fans and tossing him a few bucks even though he's not participating?
    That's what I figure.

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    Re-watching the trailer for season 2 that went up last year, I really hope that the home video release of season two features all the deleted content from the original episode one - perhaps even an option to watch what would have originally been the entire episode one - now that'd be cool.

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    Tell me about it..it looked really interesting..we might have found out where the other vehicles went, if they had any trouble getting out of Atlanta, etc..sounds a little more interesting to me than sitting around in tents awkwardly silent because of tiffs.
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    Listening to the Season 1 DVD commentary everyone gushes how great AMC was to work with and how much they support the show. Going to be very interesting to hear the Season 2 DVD commentary, see how much the tone of the actors and crew changes.


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    The whole situation seems very strange to me. AMC do not seem like a network that would rock the "creative" boat unless something was seriously affecting the production. Virtually all the important crew and actors are friends of Darabonts and took the gig because of Frank. When i first started reading the production news after this was announced i really got a Romero "family" vibe from the the stuff that was being reported. It really cant be as simple as bad guy network vs good guy genre geek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidgloves View Post
    t really cant be as simple as bad guy network vs good guy genre geek.
    Maybe, maybe not, though I tend to agree with you. I think there is a tendency to want to side with the creative individual against the newly minted public business, and that's why so many people are getting offended or painting this thing as a picture of "St. Darabont's Martyrdom."

    It really seems like AMC got pinched for cash due to being on the hook for two other established series who already have them somewhat over a barrel and made some cuts, Darabont disagreed, stood up and they had a parting of the ways when it couldn't be amicably resolved. Simple as.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AcesandEights View Post
    It really seems like AMC got pinched for cash due to being on the hook for two other established series who already have them somewhat over a barrel and made some cuts, Darabont disagreed, stood up and they had a parting of the ways when it couldn't be amicably resolved. Simple as
    The real sad part is that AMC fell into several great series'. Every series they dont own has been trying to pull out. What does that tell you?

    I honestly hope for the best with this series, I just don't see it thriving....
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    Just been listening to the latest Nerdist Writers Panel and Angela Kang who wrote the episode Secrets was on the show. She said one interesting thing that might explain a few things. Apparently Darabont sent the writers home to write their own individual episodes instead of breaking the story in the writers room together as a group. This is a very very unusual approach to writing television shows as everybody has to be literally on the same page and write the show together. She also said that AMC didnt like this approach at all so maybe the disaster that was originally eps 1 & 2 was just the end of a long line of issues as has been suggested.
    Glen Mazzara has also been on this panel before and im very confident that the show is in good hands with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kidgloves View Post
    Just been listening to the latest Nerdist Writers Panel and Angela Kang who wrote the episode Secrets was on the show. She said one interesting thing that might explain a few things. Apparently Darabont sent the writers home to write their own individual episodes instead of breaking the story in the writers room together as a group. This is a very very unusual approach to writing television shows as everybody has to be literally on the same page and write the show together. She also said that AMC didnt like this approach at all so maybe the disaster that was originally eps 1 & 2 was just the end of a long line of issues as has been suggested.
    Glen Mazzara has also been on this panel before and im very confident that the show is in good hands with him.
    Thanks for the heads up there dude, I do listen to the main Nerdist podcast from time-to-time (when they have a guest on that interests me - such as JJ Abrams), but I haven't listened to any of the others on the network - I'm now downloading the newest one with Angela Kang, and I'm nabbing the Glen Mazzara episode too.

    So I take it that they were just going off and writing their own episodes with very little in the way of a through line?

    Usually, from what I've figured and heard, individuals do go off and write their own episodes - but that is part of a tightly controlled process with the entire writing staff and the showrunner, so that everyone knows what's happening broadly throughout the entire season: which points they have to hit at the start, throughout, and at the end of their episode. I'd love to get to see the original episode 1 and 2 just out of interest (there must be so much deleted footage ... an episode's worth, really) ... so yeah, it'd be interesting to really know the full truth - but of course we'll never know the full story, and really, we don't really need to know or we're not really entitled to know the full story. It could only be understood if you were there and taking part in it - and I'm sure there's plenty of people on the inside who don't have the full story ... and after all this time now, the true-truth is probably lost.

    Hopefully Season 3 will experience a smoother path, eh? Still though, despite the rocky road for Season 2, so far it's been spiffing.

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    Kang does say she has never heard of shows being written that way before but, like you, ive heard reference to that way of writing but their must have been something unusual about Darabonts approach if AMC didnt like it and a professional writer hadnt heard of it.

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    I recently wrote an article for another website about Darabonts departure and someone claiming to be from AMC has responded.
    You can find it here.

    http://www.thetvcritic.org/blog/fran...-walking-dead/
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