 Originally Posted by krakenslayer
The dude is 100% right. No one freaks out and goes on a fast when they discover they have sat on the same chair as a menstruating woman. Because that's bullshit. No one advocates stoning unwed mothers to death. Because that's bullshit. No one worries about eating shellfish or bacon. Because that's bullshit.
Not even the Vatican, the Eastern Orthodoxy, or pretty much any Protestant denomination on earth try to enforce these elements of dogma, because even they now accept that these things are bullshit too (although they might not actually use the word "bullshit").
The man is attacking the bible, not Christians. Before anyone says "oh, that's the same thing", it isn't. All Christians make judgements on which parts of the bible they follow and which they don't, even if they are not consciously aware of it (see above).
Therefore, if any person (or organisation) wants to discriminate against homosexuals, they should not be allowed to hold up the bible as a defence whilst also tucking into a seafood salad. That's called hypocrisy.
preach one, brother kraken 
i couldn't have it better. i'm really, really sick of people and their frakin' "beliefs." i simply don't care about that because as you've said: it's bullshit. belief in NO WAY equals reality. there are only two states: knowledge and ignorance. you either know something and can prove it or you can't. simple as that. what you "believe" has nothing to do with anything at all.
if a billion people believed with all their hearts and souls, even to the point of starting a religion around the idea that 2 + 2= 5, would that make them right simply because they believe it? would we have to accept and respect an assertion that is demonstrably false? no. belief is the retarded cousin of knowledge much as faith is the retarded version of reason.
when people ask what i "believe" in, the answer is nothing. because if it cannot be proven, it simply doesn't matter. religion, esp. monotheism, revolts me. the old testament is a horror show. it is a glorification of a bunch of homicidal, genocidal fucking manics that thought god had chosen them. anyone who holds the old testament up as some sort of good example of how to live is an utter and complete fool. it's nothing but rape, murder and pillage in the name of a non-existent god.
i will make it very clear that i have zero problem with modern jews and am very pro-israel. the ancient jews, however, were a nasty piece of work from jump street and all you have to do to find that out is read the old testament. hell, not even modern judaism embraces some of that bullshit.
by the way: if you want to find some wisdom on life and what it's worth, what it means to be human there are places to find it: the works of Marcus Cicero, Aeschylus, Sophocles, and the other ancient humanist writers say far, far more about these things than the bible ever can.
the "Oresteia" by Aeschylus says more by itself about these sorts of things in 3 plays than the entirety of monotheistic thought ever has.
"cry, cry for death but good wins out in glory in the end."
there are sacred places on this earth though. they have nothing to religion. they are places with names like Marathon, Thermopylae, Plataea, Salamis, Omaha beach, Yorktown, Lexington, El Alamein, and all the other places where people have stood shoulder to shoulder with their brothers and fought and in many cases, died for freedom.
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