And it begins: Obama Renews Push to Reduce Gun Violence

[Mike70]

Hope and change hahaha..... yeah, there has been change alright - for the worse. the govt. has shutdown twice, the federal "law enforcement" agencies are out of control, and WORST of all, the relationship between the States (many of them extremely powerful states) and the federal govt. is beginning to unravel. I am an ardent believer in State's rights and a strict constructionist in relation to the constitution. Obama should be impeached and tried for abuse of power and about a thousand other things. I am also becoming more convinced than ever that the democratic party has to be destroyed by any means for the good of the Republic.

[Darkest Hour]

M70 the record states (nothing personal) that you were deployed by leviathan twice. Agency and army. I too feel bad of the things I have done and brought to fruition by my little piece of the pie when you look at big pic. DH

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[Legion2213]

THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE AND NEITHER IS THE REST! WE KICKED TYRANNICAL ASS THE FIRST TIME AND BRING IT ON AGAIN IF NECESSARY! im tired of this debate even though it will never end. and a certain someone said it best "FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!" GOD BLESS AMERICA! Although I 100% respect that the US has the 2nd amendment and fully support the right of all American folks to bear arms (and if I was a US citizen I would bear many, many arms indeed, just because I could), I can assure you that the redcoats will not be invading the US again anytime in the near future. Seriously, shouty, ranting posts like this don't do 2nd amendment supporters (or the image of) any favours IMO. Happy new year HPoDers.

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[Darkest Hour]

Same to you and yours Legion (post more SB but be careful not to tread into certain territory,one guy posted like you and people ignored and belittled him). DH

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[Crappingbear]

Better know how to get by, the gov is cutting services to the bone.

[zombieparanoia]

Oh come on, Americans are way too fat and lazy to actually go to revolution. Look at Syria, how many americans would be willing to give up their wifi, running water, electricity, 10,000 channels and air conditioning to "fight the man"? Exactly zero. The will to endure hardship has been sapped by generations of soft living. That's why all you hear is "a reckonin is a'coming" from the fools who think their countrymen have the collective stones to take on their own military. Those who think a revolution is possible need to take a hard look at their supply of groceries that are shelf stable, no power means no refrigeration, no fuel means no cars and limited heat. All they'd have to do is cut power fuel shipments and water for 3 days and everyone in every major city will capitulate. They already have the means to shut down electronic communication at the push of a button, they've done it several times in the US already. How will the revolutionaries organize without being intercepted by the NSA et al? Messenger pigeons? "the military would be on the side of the people"? yeah right. All they have to do is label you domestic terrorists and you get the same treatment as insurgents in Iraq. It is "Army Strong" not "Army Smart" for a reason. The military would fight domestic revolutionaries as hard and as ruthlessly as any other enemy they face, you would after all be trying to kill them, and they don't take kindly to you shooting their brothers in arms. Sure, there'd be small pockets of militias, but those would get crushed pretty quickly, it's not like your military has been perfecting it's anti-insurgent and urban warfare capabilities for the last decade against hardened enemies instead of soft amateurs. Your right to bear arms is a ruse, you can flatten all the small arms fire you want on the side of an Abrams. Or you can just wait for the Reapers to come and get you in your beds while you sleep. Shame about your family and neighbours, collateral losses and all that. So just keep on dreaming and telling yourself the guns are to "fight tyranny" when the rest of the world knows you own them because you have insecurities about your collective manhoods.

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[zombieparanoia]

Wow that's amazing military insight seeing just how well those weapons worked in Iraq and Afghanistan .. Really? Go ahead and point out all those military victories the insurgents had. The only way insurgents win is by waiting for the occupier to go home due to cost of maintaining long distance campaigns, unfortunately for the american militias "Sons of obesity", the US military would be holding home turf advantage too. Remember Fallujah? the insurgents killed 4 military contractors/mercenaries and in response fallujah was basically leveled in a one sided battle between armor with air support and insurgents with rpgs and Ak-47s. How many did the US lose? The weapons worked well, the soldiers did their jobs and crushed that civilian uprising, just like they would if american born terrorists started killing soldiers.

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[zombieparanoia]

Leaderless resistance? Against the best armed and trained military in the world? yeah right, give your head a shake if you think that's ever going to happen. There is literally more likely chance of a zombie apocalypse than a successful, countrywide leaderless resistance uprising in the US. Who's running fallujah today? Actually the iraqi government. anywhere outside of Kabul? The taliban. You remember them right? the guys who retreated to pakistan and waziristan instead of trying to be stupid and take on the US military in a shoot out.

[Neil]

Richard Martinez blames the NRA and government. Obviously the individual behind the gun that shot his son is in the mix too... But had he not had access to those guns (so easily)...

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