The only thing that's bothered me lately about melee weapon use:
When Rick buried that hatchet in the crown of the Walkers head, and him and Carl were arguing with Rick demanding Carl not shoot, and Carl shooting when it became obvious Rick was about to be munched....that hatchet had a wedge-type blade. I have no problem with it getting stuck in the skull, but the odds of it not penetrating deep enough to down the Walker were very poor IMO. Yes, on the one hand Rick is the walking wounded, and therefore much weaker than normal. On the other hand, however, close-quarters grappling with a Walker will DAMNED SURE get the adrenaline pumping. Had the conflict been more protracted I would've been a complete believer in Rick's already extremely depleted stamina giving out...similar to Glenn after that spurt of activity where he killed multiple Walkers and then passed out. As brief a clash as it was though, I strongly believe that adrenaline alone could've provided the necessary strength to bury the hatchet deep enough to do the deed.
If one just leaves it at that, it's nothing but a nitpick. However, had they tweaked the scene during the back-and-forth arguing over Carl not shooting so that Rick, with the last of his strength terminates the Walker and then "grays out" while trying to pull the hatchet from the downed Walker's skull I feel the scene would've held more meaning. Essentially saying "Yes, Carl's come a long, LONG way...but he's still quite young and still has much to learn from Rick. To be fair though, the writers did incorporate that subtext about Carl's development still having a long way to go before he's the "complete package" survivor with the scene where he lost his shoe to the Walker during his narrowest of escapes...yet I can't help feeling that had they written it so Rick turned out to be right by proving able to finish the Walker with the hatchet the scene where Carl made his narrow escape would've more deeply underscored the point about Carl a) Still having much to learn, and b) That his pronounced tendency to believe he's as capable as any of the adult survivors is Carl's Achilles heel.
All this aside, as I said before I really dug this episode. Since we're discussing the episode in detail however, I felt these were points that bore mentioning.
On other fronts, I agree with the theory that gunfire...errant or aimed at the bus was responsible for the slaughter that occurred within it. Given that a lot of those people weren't far from Death's doorstep to begin with due to the sickness at the Prison, even otherwise non-lethal gunshot trauma would've been fatal to most of those very physically depleted individuals. Given that streak of bullet holes in the bus's side would've been at about the height to strike anyone who was sitting up in a seat from the upper abdomen to the chest, and given that a lot of those people were slouched or sort of laying on the seats with their heads propped up (no doubt to help their breathing)....several of the bus occupants would likely have been struck in areas that would've rapidly proven fatal even for a healthy individual.
Or maybe we're looking at this backward. Perhaps the added stress of all hell breaking loose at the prison, coupled with the sudden moving of critically ill individuals resulted in 2-3 reanimations at approximately the same juncture and someone on the bus opened fire as the newly risen Walkers began attacking people...only to have something throw off his/her aim suddenly, such as the bus lurching to a stop or another Walker lunging out of one of the seats at the gun-wielder. There's no reason that streak of bullet holes couldn't be exit holes just as easily as entrance holes. That said, I'll concede the case for the bus being struck from outside is on the face of things a stronger one considering what was going down at the Prison as the bus pulled away. It does surprise me that NO ONE who was actually in the bus when it left the prison survived. A narrow bus aisle, probably congested at some point by one or more bodies should've proven at least a temporary impediment to any Walkers headed for the front of the bus. Coupled with the easy escape route of the bus's front doors it begs the question why no one survived long enough to pull the lever and open said door.
About the ID of the Karen/David killer: Just wanted to chime in and say I agree that Carol was the one who dragged the bodies outside and burned them, but VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE with the notion that Carol and Lizzie killed them TOGETHER. There is no way in HELL Carol would've exposed Lizzie to something like that willingly. It's possible Carol did it all, especially in light of the Talking Dead comments by McBride...but I still believe Lizzie did the killing as proof she wasn't "weak" to Carol. Again though, the longer the Carol/Tyreese/Lizzie/Micah survival situation goes on, the more irrelevant in practice the truth becomes, because sooner or later Tyreese is going to catch wise to the fact Lizzie is a sadistic sociopath. From there he's likely to draw his own conclusions...especially since he was aware of the Walker-luring with mice at the Prison fence, and was the one that discovered that mutilated animal pinned to a board in the bowels of the Prison. The pieces (IMHO) are likely to just fall into place for him like tumbling dominoes.
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