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    Ukraine

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    It's not "the Ukraine", it's "Ukraine". The "the" was from when it was under Soviet rule.

    Also, yes - very much oh dear.

    Typical Putin. It's a real shame for the people of Russia, too, to be stuck with a crumbling old relic of the Soviet era (and KGB to boot) as their immovable leader, who's pissing about with this nonsense instead of helping them be a nation that is respected for good reasons across the world. A tub-thumping cartoon riding around topless on a horse.

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    Can't help but think if the decision had been made to make Ukraine part of NATO or not far sooner that may have helped.

    All very confusing and head scratching stuff... And as if CV hasn't f***ed up peoples daily lives enough, now we'll have this adding to it even if it doesn't progress to anything worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    [fixed ]

    Can't help but think if the decision had been made to make Ukraine part of NATO or not far sooner that may have helped.

    All very confusing and head scratching stuff... And as if CV hasn't f***ed up peoples daily lives enough, now we'll have this adding to it even if it doesn't progress to anything worse.
    Putin being the arsehole Internet troll of the world again. And of course, give him an inch and he'll take a mile, so there's no way you can't not do anything about it.

    I wonder how many local and national problems there are facing the Russian people that are being ignored and left to fester as a result of this kind of posturing and stupidity on Putin's part. He's a thug and a bully and he only cares about himself and appearing to be strong, rather than doing a good job. Any kind of internal political opposition gets snuffed out, it's sickening.

    And quite right, we've still got Covid and it's myriad knock-on effects to be dealing with, and now here comes this asshole rattling his sabre. Dickhead.

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    I hear that Vladimir Putin has deployed his secret lethal weapon for the invasion of Ukraine:



    God help them! They don't have a prayer now.

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    Truly alarming stuff! And Putin is pretty bad too!

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    BREAKING NEWS: France has surrendered!
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    Every sanction imaginable should be used against Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doc View Post
    Every sanction imaginable should be used against Russia.
    Problem seems to be it isn't putting Putin off

    Can only hope his military goals are finite. ie: Part of Ukraine, not all? And not beyond .

    Some analysts suggest this will be the end of Putin because the sanctions will be so damaging for Russia.

    But I've also seen analysts saying that because this it pushes energy prices up, and because Russia supplies so much gas to Europe, they actually do well on that front. Need to look more into that!


    All for a strip of land...
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    And now they've captured Chernobyl. Fantastic.

    Analysts saying it's more to do with strategic position and provision of power for that area of Russia nearby (and the unlikelihood that they'd get bombed there, for obvious reasons), but seriously, when they're smack bang in the middle of deconstructing/storing/disposing of the catastrophic Soviet disaster that was the CNPP beneath that huge new shield that was put in place, that botoxed maniac is trampling all over the place. Just goes to show how much of a cunt he is.

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    As an aside, and as a Formula 1 fan, I see that the Russian Grand Prix (which was scheduled for September, IIRC) has been shit canned.

    Good.

    Shame for the Russian F1 fans, but your leader is a nutjob knee deep in bullshit and he's flinging it everywhere, the twat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    As an aside, and as a Formula 1 fan, I see that the Russian Grand Prix (which was scheduled for September, IIRC) has been shit canned.

    Good.

    Shame for the Russian F1 fans, but your leader is a nutjob knee deep in bullshit and he's flinging it everywhere, the twat.
    Russia have been kicked out of the Eurovision Song Contest!

    I'm tempted to suggest the UK should invade Ukraine now too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    Russia have been kicked out of the Eurovision Song Contest!

    I'm tempted to suggest the UK should invade Ukraine now too!
    I always thought it was a bit odd they were in it to begin with. Russia's always kind of 'been it's own thing', if that makes any sort of strange sense?

    The thing's a piss take anyway. Even when the UK enters something half-decent, it's all just block voting and silly politics. About the only thing of value in it, not that I ever watch it in actuality, is Graham Norton's withering commentary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    I always thought it was a bit odd they were in it to begin with. Russia's always kind of 'been it's own thing', if that makes any sort of strange sense?

    The thing's a piss take anyway. Even when the UK enters something half-decent, it's all just block voting and silly politics. About the only thing of value in it, not that I ever watch it in actuality, is Graham Norton's withering commentary.
    No stranger than Australia being in it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    No stranger than Australia being in it
    They are???!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    I always thought it was a bit odd they were in it to begin with. Russia's always kind of 'been it's own thing', if that makes any sort of strange sense?
    Russia's in Europe. It makes perfect sense that they would be part of it (as lame as the whole contest is).

    Makes a damn sight more sense than Israel being in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    I always thought it was a bit odd they were in it to begin with. Russia's always kind of 'been it's own thing', if that makes any sort of strange sense?

    The thing's a piss take anyway. Even when the UK enters something half-decent, it's all just block voting and silly politics. About the only thing of value in it, not that I ever watch it in actuality, is Graham Norton's withering commentary.
    It's only a spectacle and should only be treated as such. Remember, Finland won with Lordi. If they can win with that, you can win with anything (and that's a good thing!)

    Lots of people appreciate it. I think it's a fun way to argue, amicably, across nations.

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