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    https://uk.yahoo.com/movies/danny-bo...103837191.html

    Danny Boyle departed the production of Bond 25 in a dispute with Daniel Craig over the movie’s Russian villain, according to reports.

    It came following rumours of disagreements over the plot, which is said to be focussing on escalating tensions with Russia and the notion of a ‘new Cold War’, echoing current events.

    But a source has told the Daily Telegraph that the friction actually arose over plans to cast 41-year-old Polish actor Tomasz Kot as the movie’s villain, which was reportedly viewed as a ‘left field’ decision, and may have rankled Craig, who has a say in casting matters.

    “I have heard that they wanted to bring that Cold War element in but update it to the modern day.

    “Danny Boyle was in for that. That wasn’t the problem. The problem came in when they were making the final decisions about casting pre-production.”

    Currently Yann Demange, who directed military thriller ’71 and TV series Top Boy, is the bookie’s favourite to take over.
    So the crux of it was the casting of the villain with Craig and Boyle having different opinions, but Craig has a big say in the casting.

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    Yeh, there's been arguments over a silly modern cold war plot with Russia and I'd say that that's the main bone of contention, despite the press release. I can't imagine a director walking over a single casting disagreement. That doesn't ring true at all. Also, it's not like they're wanting to cast Paulie Shore or anything.

    Oh dear. This isn't shaping up well.
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    I seem to remember hearing rumors that they were looking at Angelina Jolie and Helena Bonham Carter for the villain? After Bardem and Waltz in the last two films, perhaps the producers are wanting to stick to “name” villains? I would be okay with Carter, but I don’t think I want to see someone like Jolie in a Bond film. Gives me flashbacks of Halle Berry and how her casting was more important than the film/role itself. Not that the film was any good, but I don’t want to see something similar happen to Craig’s last film.

    But as Shoot pointed out, I also have a hard time seeing Boyle leaving just over the casting of the villain. Surely Boyle and Hodge’s script must have been too much of a departure for the series, then they were probably unwilling to adapt too far with the producers’ notes.

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    Apparently Eon and MGM still have hopes of making the November 2019 release date, as they have a short list of directors they’re interested in already. The odd choice on the list is Edgar Wright, but I could definitely see him making an interesting Bond.

    http://www.superherohype.com/news/42...ealed#/slide/1
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    An Edgar Wright Bond movie? Hmmm ... interesting. Although would he want to direct something he didn't write? Then again, it's ruddy Bond, so perhaps he'd be willing to give it a go and try something different. Baby Driver felt different to his previous films, for instance.

    A 'second Cold War' plot would be timely in so far as there is trouble brewing and lots of flag waving and all sorts of unhelpful gubbins from dangerous leaders all over the shop...

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    Hmmm ... there's now talk that a major sticking point for Boyle was an idea that Barbara Broccoli apparently had: to kill of Bond in the finale and then have him regenerate like Doctor Who. Now, I'd imagine that the person saying "regenerate" doesn't literally mean that as that's sci-fi, but the idea of killing off Bond himself seems like a really stupid idea, frankly. I don't want to watch a Bond movie where it's some other person in the position of 007. It's James Bond 007, not Somebody Else 007.

    Just do what has worked for the series thus far - you hire a new actor and "James Bond" continues. While Craig's era has somewhat been a reboot as it kicked off with Casino Royale (because they'd finally got the rights to it back), a simple re-casting is all we needed before and it's all we need now. Killing off Bond? Shite idea. Hopefully saner heads will prevail and that idea is either being misreported (i.e. just an idea that was floated but swiftly shot down a while ago), or another version of the script without snuffing the hero for shock value is used.
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    I have a hard time believing that. Barbara has literally grown up with this franchise, it IS her life, I don’t see her possibly thinking something so strange is a good idea. But...stranger things have happened, I suppose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    I have a hard time believing that. Barbara has literally grown up with this franchise, it IS her life, I don’t see her possibly thinking something so strange is a good idea. But...stranger things have happened, I suppose...
    Yeah, it struck me as a bit curious ... so I'm not convinced of it myself, but anything's possible I suppose ... was still rather surprised to read that though, as it is a pretty out-there idea for someone who is essentially the shepherd and curator of the entire franchise. Then again, why would someone make that up? But perhaps it was a case of a idea floated out there at an early stage, only to be ditched ... but then if that was the case it'd have nothing really to do with Boyle leaving, so I don't know what to think now!

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    New director announced - Cary Joji Fukunaga (director of True Detective season 1) will be taking over. He was going to direct It, but departed from that project, so we'll see how he fits into the Bond machine, eh? The release date has also been pushed back to February 14th 2020 (instead of November 2019).

    As long as it's good or great and a fitting departure film for the Craig era, then I'll be happy. No pressure, then!

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    Whaaaa?!? Fukunaga is a very, very interesting choice. I love Boyle, but I may be more interested in this director!

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    They’ve brought in Scott Z. Burns to make a pass at Pervis and Wade’s script. Burns has a reputation as a “script doctor” in the business, with many of his rewrites getting high praise, so hopefully he can do the same for Craig’s new and likely final film? They’ve also moved the premiere by about two months.

    https://www.joblo.com/movie-news/sco...ack-two-months

    Burns has worked his magic on lots of scripts, including the Bourne series, Blade Runner 2049, Rogue One, Contagion, and The Ocean’s Series. Hopefully he can take the regular Bond writers’ story and give it a slight bit of a different spin. Very excited to see what he and Fukunaga can bring to the table!

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    New working title: "SHATTERHAND"

    The name comes from an alias used by series supervillain Ernst Stavro Blofeld in Ian Fleming’s 1964 Bond novel You Only Live Twice.

    The news comes days after the film’s release date was pushed back to April 2020 amid reports of extensive script rewrites. Bourne Ultimatum writer Scott Z Burns has been hired to rework the screenplay for Daniel Craig’s fifth and final outing as 007. Original director Danny Boyle dropped out in August 2018 after “creative differences” with the producers, and there have since been script drafts by Paul Haggis and the series’ writing team Neal Purvis and Robert Wade.

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    Interesting. Very coincidental, as I just watched You Only Live Twice a day or two ago when it popped up in my Netflix feed...

    Whatever they do, I just hope they give it the attention it deserves and send Craig off properly. Even his lowest points in the franchise aren’t actually bad films, so he has the potential of bowing out with a great little section of the franchise’s history.

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    What a mess. Why is it always this way with Bond films these days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    What a mess. Why is it always this way with Bond films these days?
    Too many cooks in the kitchen, is my guess....

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    Quote Originally Posted by bassman View Post
    Too many cooks in the kitchen, is my guess....
    Too many cooks!



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