 Originally Posted by facestabber
Just going to be disagreement. I'm sure Nicotero is not putting those easter eggs in this show for the casual viewer. I think the zombie fans rather enjoy and express excitement as evidenced on this page in the past seasons. The excitement never led to plausibility discussions of Bub or Stephen walking from PA to FL. We even had the airport zombie from dawn appear at Woodbury, who as we know took one of Rogers M-16 bullets to the brain.
Regarding Fisher. I'll be GD'd. I thought the guy actually said "If" all these years. I always considered that the operation was rushed and put together in a matter of days meant scientist Fisher didnt have time to stroll down Independence Ave. No doubt I misheard Fisher but I understood his point regarding Logan. Now I'm pissed about what other things I misheard in other movies. Old age is my excuse now but not in 85. Heck I thought the song "Cruel Summer" in Karate Kid was "Crusanda", so it goes without saying my hearing sucks in general.
Consider it this way: all the tribute zombies shown so far are of ones that we have actually seen in zombie movies. So a Rickles or Steel zombie would not make sense since they never turned (assume here that Steel did not completely damage his brain when he shot himself and he could have come back as a zombie, just for argument's sake), at least not in one piece. There never was any "Rickles zombie" or "Steel zombie". They were torn apart by the mob of zombies that invaded the bunker, so we never get to see them come back. Bub (whoever he was before he became a zombie) and Stephen could turn into zombies because their corpses were left in good enough shape to turn. So they appeared as zombies in those movies. They can be "tributed" because they actually became zombies.
Do you know which character from that movie should be shown as a zombie in The Walking Dead? Dr. Logan. That guy should be a zombie. In fact, if Nicotero shows a Logan-zombie at long last he would be correcting the strange contradiction that he did not turn into a zombie in Day of the Dead, when he should actually have turned.
You might want to use the fact that you misheard what Fisher said as a pretext to re-watch the movie 
All of the scientists and soldiers in the movie obviously had personal lives before the zombie disaster, so we can very likely expect them to have come from several parts of the country. When the zombie disaster happened, Fisher must have been in D.C. We can easily assume that he was sent elsewhere to investigate the zombie phenomenon in that bunker with the other people.
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Originally Posted by shootemindehead
I would prefer to get away and hopping on the bin and over the fence IS the better option for that. It's only when they get to the fence and see that that there are zombies on teh other side, that it's nature becomes obvious. By that time option b is also effectively gone.
The zombies on the other side should not have prevented them from climbing the fence. They could go for the roof of the nearby blue building from the fence, instead of going to the other side of the street. But they did not. Going to the top of a fence with barbed wire is not easy, that's why they put it there.
The point, which you seem to be missing, is that over the fence is option A and moving the debris, going up the stairs and hoping that the door at the isn't locked is a poor option B. In the time there is to make a choice, option A looks to be the better one.
In the space of less than 20 seconds, Glenn and Nicholas run into the alleyway, run toward the fence, try the ground door, see the zombies behind the fence and turn to see the zombies have caught up and cornered them.
What we are shown in 20 seconds is just editing. Look at the distance the zombies are at from the stairs when it finally dawns on Glenn that the end of the alley is pretty much a dead-end. Nicholas has not arrived yet at the end of the alley and is still looking for exits. He has the stairway right there to his left, yet he goes for the same dead-end as Glenn. Glenn should have told Nicholas right there "Head for the staircase!" instead of letting him try to climb the fence that he knew would be too difficult to climb.
Yes, over the fence is the obvious choice as a getaway. 
If it didn't have barbed wire on top, maybe.
Nobody knows how they're going to react especially in a huge group like that. That's what makes zombies such a dangerous and great movie monster. One thing is for sure though. They are unrelenting and do not tire or stop and with that in mind I wouldn't be on for putting myself in the middle of them and hoping I could kill a couple of hundred with my limited ammo and knife.
From all that we have seen so far, we can predict that they are stumped by rather clumsy barriers that would never have stopped a living person.
But that HAS to be decided as option A and you'd want to be fucking mad to do that, when there's a scalable fence less than 50 metres away. Nobody would ignore that getaway and decide to place themselves in the of a hundred creatures that want to rip you to shreds.
The scenario you're trying to outline simply doesn't exist.
The scenario I am outlining exists and is the easiest one of the two: Moving a mattress a bit to the side and squeezing through some pallets & barrels to get to the stairs vs. Climbing on top of a fence with barbed wired.
There was any other choice for Glenn and Nicholas either. By the time they see that there are zeds on the other side of the fence too, the zombies have passed the stairs.
Not only did they have another choice, but in fact they had two: there's actually two buildings with stairs in that alley.
Their "plan" is getting away from the zombies. When they run into the ally, Nicholas tries the fence to his left. Glenn runs to the end of the alley and tires the blue door. It's locked. He then looks through the fence and sees the zeds and looks behind to see the blocked stairs. Meanwhile Nick has caught up and immediately tries to scale the fence and gets put off by the zombies on the other side.
The zombies are on the other side of the fence. The only thing that that would have prevented them from doing is climbing down to the other side of the fence. But they could still have tried to climb it. Nicholas tried, but he fell down. It is not as easy as it looks. It is far more difficult to climb a fence than walking up stairs. And on top of that there's the barbed wire on top that needs to be dealt with. The zombies would have reached the fence by then and would have started shaking it as they try to reach up to get you. This scenario has loads of problems. An experienced fellow like Glenn should have had all of this in mind before allowing himself to be cornered in that alley.
In the couple of seconds that that happened in, the zombies have actually passed the stairs.
That whole scene from entering the alley to the zombies passing the staircase is 20 seconds.
Again, I'll say this (and it's last from me on it because our twain isn't going to meet on this)...Glenn and Nick are terrified, exhausted, and looking for a way to put distance between them and the things that want to rip them to pieces. They also don't have the time, or POV that the viewers have had to mull over and discuss every single possibility...and lastly, if they HAD simply scaled the fence and got away, not one single person would be even talking about the stairs and anything but a blocked passage.
But the script did have them fail to climb the fence, so we can talk about it. Was trying to climb a barbed wire fence the best choice? No. Was there another choice that might have been easier? Yes. If the barrier at the bottom of the stairs also had barbed wire around it, then you could argue that it would also be too difficult to overcome it in enough time before the zombies arrive, but as it was, that barrier was not very difficult for a human to get through.
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