 Originally Posted by facestabber
Ok folks clear something up for me. Watching the scene when Denise entered the room with the baby stuff. I read it as the baby was drowned for mercy and its shoe was sticking out of water but still on the foot. A coworker said the shoe was just there. So then I started questioning what I saw. Stuck at work now so what are your thoughts? If in fact the baby was drowned it would have turned. So with the water bloody, was there more to it? Ofcourse in beginning of outbreak, the virus wasn't immediately airborn as Jenner said that it eventually went airborn. Ok end ramble, what say you?
Originally Posted by Bodanki
I read it that a person and their baby hid in there.
The person died and turned then ate the baby. Or maybe I am just twisted.
Yep. I read it that the adult turned first (any food would undoubtedly go to the baby first, as any parent would), but once a walker, the parent/guardian then ate the infact (rather grim!) and all that was left was a lot of old, dry blood and that shoe. VERY GRIM!!! 
Originally Posted by slayerized
I thought it was pretty crazy how she was still talking with the crossbow bolt through her head like she didn't even realize it and then just sort of faded off...I had to rewind and watch that a couple of times!
Indeed! I thought that was a nice touch ... that trailing off of words, the slight confusion, her functions shutting down gradually ... the moment lingered! 
Originally Posted by Moon Knight
You are correct, Andrea was the last.
So we're overdue for one then! But just goes to show how few OG cast members we've got to play with, and arguably they kind of stuffed it a bit with Andrea's arc towards the end. It undoubtedly had impact, but that back half of season 3 was fairly uneven (some of the best episodes versus some of the weakest).
Originally Posted by AcesandEights
Anyone else sense another lame pull back from the edge and killing of more minor or vaguely defined characters people haven't had much of a chance to grow attached to? I hope I'm wrong, but sometimes this show really goes from balls to the walls to utterly feckless.
If a major player had died in this episode, it would have likely robbed power from a potential major player biting the dust in the finale. We're all assuming a major player will die in the finale - presumably one of the now very rare Season 1 cast members - although we don't know for sure. I would say we're definitely shaping up for a big character to go in the finale, but which big player is another story. I simultaneously look forward to - and dread - finding out in a couple of weeks time.
When it comes to OG Season 1 cast members, there's very few of them left now. Being that in the early seasons the cast was limited in size, and you still needed major players to die, those major deaths were going to come down to season one cast members (several of whom we'd already lost in season one) - so as a result very quickly we found ourselves with a small number of OG cast. Now we've had major players from seasons 2, 3, and 4 biting the dust as we've had time to bed them in and make them front row cast members ... but the point is we've got so few OG cast members, they have to ration their demises.
For me, The Walking Dead is ultimately a father/son story between Rick and Carl - a man shepherding his son, during his formative years, in the zombie apocalypse. In my mind TWD should end with Rick's death - but only once he's safely seen Carl through the apocalypse - and, again in my mind, Rick would be the first person to die post-ZA who wouldn't come back, acting as a signal that the virus has gone. To me, that's the over-riding story arc of the entirety of TWD.
Besides, it would just be daft to have nobody from Season 1 survive to the end of the show!
My money's on Glenn or Carol. They've both had a lot of 'climactic storytelling' going on, and for Glenn he's had a few seriously close calls in the last season's worth of episodes. If I had to pick between Glenn or Carol, as to which OG cast member might leave us in the finale, I'd pick Glenn.
That's assuming they don't knock us for six and do it next week ... but I think it'd much more likely be in the finale for maximum storytelling and "OMFG I can't wait for Season 7!" impact.
Originally Posted by Moon Knight
I hated the original comic death so this time I agree with Kirkman. There is no way the showrunner and producers will kill someone like Heath or Tara in this season finale. The whole point of this upcoming death is the impact it has on Rick and vital for the story moving forward. Denise makes sense in this death because now Alexandria is in need of a Doctor. I won't say nothing more about that to avoid spoilers.
Yep. Denise's death, while she may be a relatively new character, does have a huge impact on Alexandria - no Doctor!
As for the original 'arrow in the eye while mid-sentence' death from the comics, it was a big shock - but beyond that, what purpose did it serve, really? They've changed some things and kept many other things, so I think they've struck an ideal balance. At this point the deaths of named characters, main or supporting, should have an impact in some way to the overall story.
Originally Posted by Neil
Who was Dwight with back then (when Daryl spared him)? Did he ride off alone on Daryl's bike or with someone?
He rode off with one of the girls he was with (the other died in that melted greenhouse, remember?). It was two girls and a guy (Dwight) that Daryl encountered in the burned out woods (after he, Sasha, and Abraham had been ambushed in a gunfight - when they were dealing with/had finished dealing with leading the walker herd away from Alexandria in 6A). They were almost on-side when they screwed him over. In the woods Daryl was captured by them, then hung around them for a bit - but when the Saviours came back, Daryl was going to ditch them, but came back and helped them survive. Evidently they didn't trust Daryl enough to go with him and opted for what they knew, regardless of the inevitable punishments that would be waiting for them.
I must admit I'd forgotten, until reminded, that Daryl and Dwight had already met.  I've only watched these episodes once, so I don't get burned out on them, and then when I get the Blu-Ray it'll be like they're brand new. 
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But yeah, if Carl was ever killed off I would absolutely need Rick to survive. I think out of that paring of father and son one of them must survive the end, and I think the 'next generation' aspect that Carl would engender would be the most sensible route. I really like the idea of Rick shepherding his son not only through his formative years, but through his formative years in a zombie apocalypse, and then ultimately seeing him through it all. 
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