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    Blade Runner 2049 (film)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haXvp8M9Cog



    Thoughts?

    The one thing that slightly irks me is that it - seemingly, at least (who knows if there's some sort of weird plotting logic loop hidden in there somewhere ... probably not, but you never know) - that Deckard isn't a replicant. That was a theory that I always quite liked and subscribed to because of the origami unicorn (was that inserted into the '92 Directors Cut, or was it there earlier on?)

    Anyway - it looks and sounds right (I had tingles) and I think Gosling's going to nail this.

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    With Villeneuve directing and Deakins as cinematographer, have zero doubt that this will be a visual treat. Just hopefully it can also live up to the BR reputation in all other departments.

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    Never seen the original. Should I?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Knight View Post
    Never seen the original. Should I?
    You have never seen Blade Runner? Are you from, like, this planet???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Knight View Post
    Never seen the original. Should I?

    "I worked in a factory owned by Germans, at coal pits owned by Frenchmen, and at a chemical plant owned by Belgians. There I discovered something about capitalists. They are all alike, whatever the nationality. All they wanted from me was the most work for the least money that kept me alive. So I became a Communist." - Ники́та Серге́евич Хрущёв

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Knight View Post
    Never seen the original. Should I?
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    Dear Lord, Moon ... please say you're joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moon Knight View Post
    Never seen the original. Should I?
    It's slow and clunky... But a work of art in truth...

    Yes watch it, if only for the best death monologue ever...

    Now which version to see? The cinematic or directors? Quite different really...
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neil View Post
    It's slow and clunky... But a work of art in truth...

    Yes watch it, if only for the best death monologue ever...

    Now which version to see? The cinematic or directors? Quite different really...
    "Slow and clunky"? For a teenager, perhaps (when I first saw it I didn't think much of it - as a teenager - but then a few years later I dug it and I dig it more and more every time I see it.

    Just go with the 2007 Director's Cut - it's a slightly finessed version of the 1992 Director's Cut - and so is ultimately the best version to see.

    Avoid the early cocked up version with the dumbo voice over featuring a decidedly bored and unwilling Harrison Ford (who, justifiably, didn't want to do the V/O).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    "Slow and clunky"? For a teenager, perhaps (when I first saw it I didn't think much of it - as a teenager - but then a few years later I dug it and I dig it more and more every time I see it.

    Just go with the 2007 Director's Cut - it's a slightly finessed version of the 1992 Director's Cut - and so is ultimately the best version to see.

    Avoid the early cocked up version with the dumbo voice over featuring a decidedly bored and unwilling Harrison Ford (who, justifiably, didn't want to do the V/O).
    I was being tactical with my choice of words... It's certainly no action scifi flick. It's unusual and paced...
    Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there--on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam. [click for more]
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    "Slow and clunky"? For a teenager, perhaps (when I first saw it I didn't think much of it - as a teenager - but then a few years later I dug it and I dig it more and more every time I see it.

    Just go with the 2007 Director's Cut - it's a slightly finessed version of the 1992 Director's Cut - and so is ultimately the best version to see.

    Avoid the early cocked up version with the dumbo voice over featuring a decidedly bored and unwilling Harrison Ford (who, justifiably, didn't want to do the V/O).
    I'd seen an interview with Denis Villeneuve (Blade Runner 2049 director) where he says that due to it being the ONLY edit for so many years, he actually thinks of the original voice over cut as the true version of the film. Cause for concern?....
    Last edited by bassman; 20-Dec-2016 at 10:29 PM. Reason: .

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    If Deckard is a robot in this, I won't bother. The idea of an OAP robot is thick. My prefered cut has always been the original 1982 one where, to me, he was a man. That idea always made more sense than Scott's clumsy idea of making him a replicant. There's just too much logic fail going on with that.

    That said, the teaser is pretty good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MinionZombie View Post
    The one thing that slightly irks me is that it - seemingly, at least (who knows if there's some sort of weird plotting logic loop hidden in there somewhere ... probably not, but you never know) - that Deckard isn't a replicant. That was a theory that I always quite liked and subscribed to because of the origami unicorn (was that inserted into the '92 Directors Cut, or was it there earlier on?)
    I assumed the exact opposite. Ryan Gosling is a Blade runner sent to take down a replicant - Deckard.

    Deckard has aged, yes but I suppose he would be a replicant of the same stock as Rachel. A experimental model designed to be as human as possible. It's possible that ageing was part of that.

    "I worked in a factory owned by Germans, at coal pits owned by Frenchmen, and at a chemical plant owned by Belgians. There I discovered something about capitalists. They are all alike, whatever the nationality. All they wanted from me was the most work for the least money that kept me alive. So I became a Communist." - Ники́та Серге́евич Хрущёв

    "Thanks for Playa Girón. Before the invasion, the revolution was weak. Now it's stronger than ever". - Che Guevara

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    Why would a robot age?

    Why make a robot that age?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EvilNed View Post
    I assumed the exact opposite. Ryan Gosling is a Blade runner sent to take down a replicant - Deckard.

    Deckard has aged, yes but I suppose he would be a replicant of the same stock as Rachel. A experimental model designed to be as human as possible. It's possible that ageing was part of that.
    Yeah, I'd thought of this after a few days of mulling over the trailer. That would be my hope, too. It did seem like Rachael was, perhaps, something different from Roy Batty, and that Deckard, certainly, was something altogether different.

    I'm not sure whether it'll be a case of Gosling hunting down Ford, perhaps it'll more likely be him tracking him down for assistance or guidance?

    Quote Originally Posted by shootemindehead View Post
    Why would a robot age?

    Why make a robot that age?
    Why make a robot that looks and acts like a human at all?

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    I just recently read a lengthy article featuring the head creative minds behind both films and they say that 2049 is based on a question raised in the original film. Supposedly nobody did or will expect it, but once you see this question asked again in 2049, it's a sort of "why didn't I see that coming??" moment?

    I just watched the final cut today(as well as the phenomenal Dangerous Days doc) and I'm still drawing a blank as to what this core question may be if it's supposed to be unpredictable yet obvious at the same time....
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