TWD 10x16 A Certain Doom" episode discussion... **SPOILERS**

[MinionZombie]

Please keep all talk of episode 10x16 "A Certain Doom" specifically inside this thread. If you have a theory for a following episode, please use the "spoiler tags" (visit the HPOTD FAQ to find out how to use them if you don't already know). Similarly, if you're going to discuss plot points from the comic book, please use "spoiler tags" - not everyone is up-to-date on them, and some people don't read them at all. Enjoy! So we've been waiting for this one since April 'cos of the feckin' Covid-19, but it's finally coming... Directed by: Greg Nicotero Written by: Story by : Jim Barnes & Eli Jorné & Corey Reed; Teleplay by : Corey Reed

[Moon Knight]

This should be the premier of season 11 and here we are all these months later getting a single episode just to wait again lol.

[MinionZombie]

This should be the premier of season 11 and here we are all these months later getting a single episode just to wait again lol. Although, we will be getting a sort of mini-season / tag-on season of a few extra episodes, which apparently they're now filming. We might get to see those earlier next year, and then the show will get back onto its usual production schedule (hopefully!!!) for season 11 proper. And I'll give World Beyond a go, although it really looks 50/50 to me. I do worry that there'll be too many 'idiotic teenager' moments where they just defy in-world logic or prior training and just act like morons, as teenagers always seem to do in almost every damn thing.

[Moon Knight]

Although, we will be getting a sort of mini-season / tag-on season of a few extra episodes, which apparently they're now filming. We might get to see those earlier next year, and then the show will get back onto its usual production schedule (hopefully!!!) for season 11 proper. And I'll give World Beyond a go, although it really looks 50/50 to me. I do worry that there'll be too many 'idiotic teenager' moments where they just defy in-world logic or prior training and just act like morons, as teenagers always seem to do in almost every damn thing. Isn’t the premise of the new show that the teens have no training or experience of the outside world due to being locked in at the start of the ZA? Haven’t really followed the series much outside of the SDCC panel.

[MinionZombie]

Isn’t the premise of the new show that the teens have no training or experience of the outside world due to being locked in at the start of the ZA? Haven’t really followed the series much outside of the SDCC panel. On the Talking Dead 'TWD universe' preview special they said that the teens will have been given training and classes (i.e. what a zombie is, how the basically function, and academics on how to defend yourself with some physical classes - but it's all within the safety of closed walls, so none of it will have been put into practise) ... that's what it seems to be ... but there'll be a need, no doubt, to get these silly teens into some scrape, so no doubt all their training will be for nought. There would no doubt be a rude awakening going from academics to realities, but that can very easily lead to annoying viewing experience ... which is my main concern with World Beyond. I'd like for that not to be the case, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we have 'stupid overload' for certain characters.

[MinionZombie]

Checked out the episode last night - I enjoyed it. Of course, all of the tension and build up that had been, well, built up leading into that episode back in March is all lost, so the episode can't help but feel a bit anti-climactic because of the unintended SIX MONTH wait, but it was still a good episode with some quite tense moments. It's not really all wham bam action, it's more simmering tension on a grand scale, but with works.   Beta's demise ... the actual death was cool, but the fight beforehand was too short. Considering his size I wanted a big old ruck, but it was over pretty quick. Still, though, the style of his death was pretty nifty.

[Neil]

Not aired in the UK for a few more days yet

[MinionZombie]

Not aired in the UK for a few more days yet

[Neil]

LOL!

[shootemindehead]

Pretty meh episode really. And I still hate that zombie camo nonsense. It never ceases to be stupid.

[beat_truck]

And I still hate that zombie camo nonsense. It never ceases to be stupid. They're going down that road again? UGH. I've about lost all interest in these shows. I will watch 'till the end, but TWD really hasn't been that good in a long time. Watching reruns yesterday reminded me of that.

[JDP]

Seems like they defeated Beta, the Whisperers and the zombie horde too easily. Most of the infiltrators weren't even wearing face masks, like the Whisperers were, so it was actually them who would have been the easy targets for the Whisperers mixed up among the crowd of zombies. Pretty disappointing and not very logical end of the season.

[MinionZombie]

Seems like they defeated Beta, the Whisperers and the zombie horde too easily. Most of the infiltrators weren't even wearing face masks, like the Whisperers were, so it was actually them who would have been the easy targets for the Whisperers mixed up among the crowd of zombies. Pretty disappointing and not very logical end of the season. 1) They didn't have enough masks at their disposal - two, at most, and Lydia had one (her mother's mask). 2) You've also got to think in terms of filmmaking - we need to be able to see the characters and differentiate them for our benefit from the mass of walkers. It's a bit of a cheat, but sometimes you have to do these things in order to allow the viewer to follow what's going on. 3) It was kept pretty tight - in amongst that many bodies, you'd only be able to spot someone when you're already pretty close to them.

[Moon Knight]

1) They didn't have enough masks at their disposal - two, at most, and Lydia had one (her mother's mask). 2) You've also got to think in terms of filmmaking - we need to be able to see the characters and differentiate them for our benefit from the mass of walkers. It's a bit of a cheat, but sometimes you have to do these things in order to allow the viewer to follow what's going on. 3) It was kept pretty tight - in amongst that many bodies, you'd only be able to spot someone when you're already pretty close to them. Also, they seemed to have learned from Gabriel’s mistake of splattering Walker blood all over their faces.

[shootemindehead]

They're going down that road again? UGH. I've about lost all interest in these shows. I will watch 'till the end, but TWD really hasn't been that good in a long time. Watching reruns yesterday reminded me of that. Yep. They doing that crap again. It has to be one of the worst Get Out Of Jail cards I've ever seen. It's been eye rolling since S01. I really haven't cared too much about the show since Rick left and the Whisperers storyline is absolute pants, both in the comic and the TV show. I think it's just run out of steam really. There's too many characters that I just couldn't give a toss about and the worse thing is they keep adding to them. That annoying bitch in the purple coat...jesus. I know they're trying to reach for quirky and offbeat, but they're only getting irritating and stupid.