Sit down!!!! A (small) screen shot from Duke Nukem Forever...

[MinionZombie]

Liam - ya damn right, bitch! *high five* Duke Nukem 3-D was one of the defining gaming experiences in my teenage years, the amount of time I'd spend in the bar throwing money at the babes going "shake it baby" was obscene. Neil - then you must have enjoyed Redneck Rampage - you could pee and poop ... sound only though. I think there needs to be more pee/poop in videogames, it's just flat-out funny I say. (Some of the best fun to be had with Postal 2 is cheating yourself a 999 bladder and just run around all over the place pissing on anything and everything ... sick, yes ... but freakin' funny). Remember when you'd shoot those fang-toothed goony drone type aliens and they'd not quite die, they'd be on their knees bleeding and shaking their head pleading with you, then you'd blow their face off with your kick ass shotgun with the funky grip on the pump. Some of those chaps would even be sat on the can when you busted open a toilet cubicle door too, ha! Bring on the DNF goodness, hopefully it gets the same amount of good vibrations as STALKER is getting now, after all the fuss and complaining and "it's washed up, never gonna happen" sh*te from armchair complainers. With all the advancements in FPS gaming (and likewise, complications), there's always a space there for a simple, flat out "blast them in the nuts!" romp - that's why I liked Doom 3 so much. It looked all new-age, but it was a straight forward old school blaster, the perfect antidote to too much Half Life 2 (despite it being great).

[capncnut]

Soon we'll have people getting excited about the next Taurok game.

[Danny]

yeah i agree, duke nukem sucked, id rather play serious sam, and thats sayin' something.

[Neil]

yeah i agree, duke nukem sucked, id rather play serious sam, and thats sayin' something. LOL! You're talking about games from completely different time periods... What we're saying though is for it's time DN3D was ground breaking! Remember, Quake wasn't even out when DN3D appeared!

[MinionZombie]

Perzactly, Neil ... these young rapscallions just don't know when a great game throws a dollar bill in your face and tells you to "shake it". Duke Nukem was a milestone in FPS gaming history, Quake was but a mere puff of air in the balls of id Software.

[Neil]

Perzactly, Neil ... these young rapscallions just don't know when a great game throws a dollar bill in your face and tells you to "shake it". Duke Nukem was a milestone in FPS gaming history, Quake was but a mere puff of air in the balls of id Software. The concept of being able to walk upto a vending machine and vend was great... The concept of being able to look in a mirror was great. The concept of being able to strink an enemy down and then try and stomp on him was great. The concept of being able to freeze and enemy and then blow him into shards of ice was great. The concept of being able to set laser trip mines was great. The concept of having a pool table where you could actually play pool was great. The concept of having a wise cracking hero was great. The political incorrectness of it all - porno booths with dodgy films and toilet rolls - pole dancers - being able to poop on enemies - great great great! The game was inovative to the extreme... and great!

[MinionZombie]

That, Sir ... is spot on. Duke was a superb game, it was packed with a myriad of nifty little ideas - some of which you've stated here - and at the time it was unheard of. Duke was all about having fun ... not going "ooooh, look at how pretty" or "wow! look at the NPC's perform tactical moves against me!" or "wow ... look at those telephone wires wiggle in the downdraft!"...

[Neil]

That, Sir ... is spot on. Duke was a superb game, it was packed with a myriad of nifty little ideas - some of which you've stated here - and at the time it was unheard of. Duke was all about having fun ... not going "ooooh, look at how pretty" or "wow! look at the NPC's perform tactical moves against me!" or "wow ... look at those telephone wires wiggle in the downdraft!"... Do you remember the classic moments you went into the cinema:- a) Went into the bathroom and shot yourself in the mirror by accident ( thinking it was a baddy) b) Opened up a cubicle to find an alien taking a dump c) Opened up the cinema curtains to find some dodgy film playing

[Tricky]

Did you ever play the playstation version with the extra chapter?that level based around the shining was class! I liked the shrinking gun as well where you shirnk the baddy,then chase them around trying to stomp on them And when you found the character from Doom on one of the levels

[EvilNed]

There's only one single game that has stood against the test of time... And that's Doom. Doom is fun whenever and will always be. Quake 1 isn't fun anymore. Nor is DN3D. Only Doom. They should probably never have made Doom 3. It wasn't that bad of a game, but it didn't hold a candle to the classic games.

[MinionZombie]

Ironically, Doom 3 was a remake of Doom. I heard people complained about the "slow run speed" of your character, and wanted it to be like Doom (forgetting that all other shooters had a similar run speed) - have you played "Classic Doom 3"?! It's Doom 3 bloke running at Doom 1 speeds, and it's literally sickening. I felt nauseus and light headed (and I've not felt that way after playing a game since the early 1990s). Neil - damn straight, the dodgy film in the cinema was a classic, then you could shoot the screen out and go behind the screen. At the time I remember seeing Duke in the mirror and just thinking "wow!" as I'd not seen anything like that before, you never got to see your protagonist in the game. Tricky - I remember discovering the Doom guy in one scene, lol, but I never played the extra chapter (never had a Playstation though). The Shining level sounds nifty.

[Craig]

I played through DN3D not long ago, if anything I'd rather play DN3D than Doom nowadays, it just has more variety in every aspect. By the way did anyone ever play Shadow Warrior, 3DRealms kung-fu version of Duke Nukem? I bought it a while ago, it's good but it was an import so it plays quite slowly.

[Neil]

I played through DN3D not long ago, if anything I'd rather play DN3D than Doom nowadays, it just has more variety in every aspect. By the way did anyone ever play Shadow Warrior, 3DRealms kung-fu version of Duke Nukem? I bought it a while ago, it's good but it was an import so it plays quite slowly. ...and don't forget Blood as well! That was on the Duke engine wasn't it?

[Craig]

...and don't forget Blood as well! That was on the Duke engine wasn't it? Oh yeah, is that the one with the Vampire with a pitchfork where you can kick enemies heads around after you kill them and there is a voodoo doll as one of the weapons?

[Neil]

Oh yeah, is that the one with the Vampire with a pitchfork where you can kick enemies heads around after you kill them? That's it... And of course the theme tune on HPotD came from the Blood website