Anyone believe in ghosts?

[mista_mo]

Yes. Simple and straight to the point. They exist.

[ngm231]

i believe in ghosts until the stupid people say they have seen one.

[darth los]

It's funny how that works. We're always so unwilling to believe the testimony of others.( especially when it comes to floaty ecto plasmic things). I think unless i actually see one i'll be a skeptic.

[Danny]

aye same here as for aliens, of course theres gotta be some purely becuase life exists, look all around you life happens and the odds of it occuring on just one blue rock in the whole ...i dunno macrocosm is for lack of a more eloquent word retarded. Yes. Simple and straight to the point. They exist. k, proof please

[darth los]

Haven't you heard of casper !?! what more proof do you need !?!

[capncnut]

The infamous Brown Lady, more like brown trousers! Behind you! Actually, this is one was taken by the driver's wife who later noticed his mother was sitting in the back seat. Thing is, she's been brown bread for years! This photo is of a burning warehouse in Shropshire and this girl, allegedly that of Jane Churm, showed up when there was no-one there at the time. Speaking of kids, let's not forget Amityville Boy! Oh, and who can forget this? Might be a bit too scary to post so make with the clickety.

[MissJacksonCA]

What was it? It was some dude doing a ta-dah? oh I get it thats MZ.... very funny

[darth los]

Spooky pics. How many of them do you think were doctored? I'm gonna have to sleep with my blanky tonight.

[MaximusIncredulous]

Thing I never understand about ghosts is why the clothing? Ok so the theory is that a person dies and bang-zoom they're instantly converted to spirit form (bypassing the resurrection - what the heck is that for if you can become spirit without it?) looking for the light but their clothing too? I wonder if that includes the labels as well?

[MissJacksonCA]

ooo very interesting point... I have no idea why they would have clothes... I know a lot of people who say they saw one the ghost in question wore something typical of what they wore in everyday life so it may be whatever they died in... hmmm...

[Kaos]

I don't believe in ghosts. Not only because there is no proof of ghosts, but because many people's explanation of ghosts sound...well...ridiculous. For example, one explanation of ghosts is that they are troubled spirits who never went on to (heaven, hell, limbo, the underworld, the elysian fields, valhalla, pick one). Given the billions of people who have died, and a pretty good percentage who have been f*cked over in their life, you'd expect paranormal poltergeist activity everywhere... in your house, on the street, in your backyard, the local pub...everywhere. This obviously isn't the case. It is also weird to hear christians speak of ghosts. My understanding of christianity pretty much concludes that ghosts really don't fit in christian belief. (Although not a christian myself I have read the bible from beginning to end.) The only ghost is the godhead. Everyone else goes to hell or heaven or limbo if you are catholic. God is never supposed to make a mistake and let someone hang around on Earth after you die so you can make pranks on the living. (Although this personally seems like a pretty cool thing to do once you are dead - if only it were true.) Well, I really don't want the believers in ghosts to be pissed at me. I can't say with certainty that ghosts do not exist, but according to logic I don't have to prove that ghosts do exist, it is up to the person claiming that ghosts exist to prove it...this is especially true if they are trying to convince others to believe it too. I don't treat people who believe in ghosts poorly since they may have experienced something that to them is extraordinary that cannot be proven. Even if I experienced a poltergeist-like experience I can't see the direct correlation that ghosts are the answer to the unexplained phenomena. I have to say though that I love horror movies, and ghosts are OK by me in fiction. If ghosts did exist and it was ever somehow proven it certainly wouldn't crush my world view...but only expand it. I sincerely doubt, however, that will happen in my lifetime.

[mista_mo]

technically, we are always surrounded by the spirits of the dead- everywhere is "infested" with them if you will, but they aren't strong enough (I dunno what the term is off hand) to actually physically manifest into something we would notice. so right now, there could be 6 or 7 dead people in the room with you watching everything you do (if they percieve us the way we percieve them that is) and trying too communicate, but unable too. I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything but damn, thats a pretty frightening prospect.

[darth los]

Thing I never understand about ghosts is why the clothing? Ok so the theory is that a person dies and bang-zoom they're instantly converted to spirit form (bypassing the resurrection - what the heck is that for if you can become spirit without it?) looking for the light but their clothing too? I wonder if that includes the labels as well? I guess you could say that they wouldn't be caught dead naked.

[Kaos]

technically, we are always surrounded by the spirits of the dead- everywhere is "infested" with them if you will, but they aren't strong enough (I dunno what the term is off hand) to actually physically manifest into something we would notice. so right now, there could be 6 or 7 dead people in the room with you watching everything you do (if they percieve us the way we percieve them that is) and trying too communicate, but unable too. I don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything but damn, thats a pretty frightening prospect. Well that is a nice story, but it is again another take on ghosts that seems a bit facile and well...made up.

[MaximusIncredulous]

I read a theory a long time ago that said all ghosts were really demons that take the form of human beings that have died in order to foster a belief in the living of automatic immortality upon death. Since human beings have to work(?) with God towards achieving a spiritual existence (if you believe that sort of thing), the notion of existence on that plane being given automatically to us upon death keeps humanity separated from God by encouraging them to pursue more "mortal" interests, or something like that. If accounts of paranormal activity have any truth to them, that could be one explanation for the senseless activity found in the majority of hauntings. Some hauntings have a "ghost pointed to a wall, we knocked a hole in the wall and found a box of human bones behind the wall" theme to them but those are rare. Most paranormal actions are nonsense: unsettling visuals, sounds, etc. Sorry to inject religion into the thread but I always found it an interesting or, at least, a different take on the ghost thing.