WOW! BBFC ban Man Hunt 2

[MinionZombie]

who aside from eli roth would want to play a game were you pull a guys nuts off with pliers? Eh? Is that in the game or tabloidal assumption? If the latter - FORSHAAAAAAAAAAAME!!! I enjoyed Manhunt for a while, I hated the lack of environment interactivity though, did my nuts in (lol, but not THAT much, haha). I'd quite like Manhunt 2 to sell a bundle while being rated AO, perhaps it'll spur on some properly adult games. Yes GTA and all that are quite violent, have swearing, but you get barely a snifter of minge! There needs to be more AO games I say! But I doubt severely that Manhunt 2 would influence anyone anyway, it's all media hype, especially with the Wiimote and numpty anti-game people spouting tabloidal sentences fuelled purely by their distaste, which is retarded. As for the gaming public, the majority won't play it, or people will play it and not like it and make up their own mind. Like with the first game, people didn't like it (well, the ones who didn't like it anyway) down to the quality of the build and the story - which shows maturity...yet anti-game wankers refuse to really understand the industry and the fanbase...tisk tisk.

[darth los]

I just don't understand it. People want these games. There's a market for it. Pretty much every other demographic has their games. Kiddie games, brain games, pet games (ahem, nintendo). I agree we need some quality AO games.

[MinionZombie]

Exactly - like with films, there's a demographic for all sorts. Before it was whinging about horror movies, now it's violent games, pathetic really, and games will win out in the end, so why do these numpty anti-game nobs waste so much energy? ... to justify their funding I suppose ... still, what a pathetic life that must be!

[Tricky]

To be honest they are probably right to ban it,it sounds a pretty sick game & is probably like porn to someone who likes the idea of doing those things in real life.I play FPS games,some of which are pretty violent,but they arent killing & stalking etc just for the pure hell of it,ive never liked games that are sick for sicks sake.wise decision i say & im not a prude

[darth los]

But just because someone might not agree with something doesn't mean it should be banned. I hate most rpg's so i want all final fantasy games to be banned. That's not fair. This game is for adults. We can make that choice for ourselves. I do think that this game should never find it's way into kid's hands but it's doubtful that's an oblective that ca be realized. The same could also be said about alcohol, guns and cigarettes. The gov't already has it's nose in too many things that it shouldn't.

[Danny]

yeah mz its really in it though gamespot names it as a "forced and enthused castration", thats almost as bad as "wardrobe malfunction" the big dela is one the wii you actually have to use the wiimote in a way like a knife to actually cut of a guys garbage , that isnt gameing thats sick. yeah ,i find it sick, not to often youll hear me say that.

[capncnut]

When you check out the screenshots from The Sun Online, it's hardly surprising. Rockstar have time to appeal but it will do no good, they will probably have to censor it heavily or not release it in the UK altogether. You can bet your ass it'll be banned in Australia, seeing as though they censored Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy. I don't think it should be banned personally. If real parents enforced restrictions on games with an 18 certificate and stopped buying their kids Grand Theft Auto for Christmas then this probably wouldn't be happening. Why should us adults suffer? They wouldn't ban a movie that had similar content, now would they? No, because it's something you control yourself, there's a slim possiblity it might trigger off a glitch in some spaz's head who cant differentiate from real life and fantasy and the classification board are lumping all of us into that category.

[darth los]

the big dela is one the wii you actually have to use the wiimote in a way like a knife to actually cut of a guys garbage , that isnt gameing thats sick. yeah ,i find it sick, not to often youll hear me say that. Is it any sicker that stabbing a man through the gut with a katana in red steel? I don't think it should be banned personally. If real parents enforced restrictions on games with an 18 certificate and stopped buying their kids Grand Theft Auto for Christmas then this probably wouldn't be happening. Why should us adults suffer? They wouldn't ban a movie that had similar content, now would they? No, because it's something you control yourself, there's a slim possiblity it might trigger off a glitch in some spaz's head who cant differentiate from real life and fantasy and the classification board are lumping all of us into that category. That's the real problem cap. These kids don't have money and can't legally buy it for themselves. So who's really to blame? That's not usually my stance on things. I think parents get too much of the blame for their children's actions, but not in this case.

[Danny]

Is it any sicker that stabbing a man through the gut with a katana in red steel? yes, you cutting a guys cock and nakcers off with a knife using a remote to mime it, of course its worse.

[darth los]

yes, you cutting a guys cock and nakcers off with a knife using a remote to mime it, of course its worse. We're in total agreement there. I cringe at the thought of genital mutilation.

[MinionZombie]

But apparently, from recent research, most parents are paying attention to the ratings, whether they go against them or not I duno, but apparently most do pay attention these days after the slew of fussy-shouty front pages on the Daily Mail. And indeed, censorship is rather silly, it should only be used very sparingly - like you can understand why soldier's letters are censored if they let some important detail slip, doi, obvious. But christ, it's just a game. I'm sure a lot of people would be repulsed by Manhunt 2 anyway, so they wouldn't get it anyway. Manhunt didn't do that great until the whole Stefan Pakeerah bullshiite. If you don't wanna hack off some nuts, then don't buy it, simple as. And you might get the odd nutter, or just one nutter, but they'd crack eventually anyway...perhaps a game or whatever delayed them for a bit, so perhaps less people would ultimately suffer from a random massacre, who knows. Anyway, just look at porn, the evidence is very strong that hardcore is good for lower stats to do with real life rape - i.e. people capable of doing that (whether they know or not), are popping their clogs more often, so they don't get all "sex nuts and retard strong" (to quote the brilliant Randall in Clerks 2 )...same for games. Like with GTA, when I'd feel sh*t and angry, an hour on that and I'd be chilled out. Shoot some code in the "balls" and then sigh relief and go watch The Simpson's on TV, now relaxed and chilled out... Manhunt 2 piracy will be through the roof methinks.

[darth los]

And indeed, censorship is rather silly, it should only be used very sparingly - like you can understand why soldier's letters are censored if they let some important detail slip, doi, obvious. I totally agree. Censorship should be the exception and not the rule. It should be used only in cases where it could easily get into the hands of kids. If they put this much effort into enforcing existing laws thhat are supposed to prevent the sale of adult themed content to minors there wouldn't be this problem. Everybody agrees that children shouldn't be able to get their hands on porn but you don't see them banning that do you? We just enforce the laws that are on the books. Restricting access to adults who it is undemocratic.

[Danny]

i aint saying its gonna make people violent its just in real bad taste for the missions to be cutting someones knackers off or setting them on fire for the hell of it, dont know about you but i prefer the way games are meant to be a fun interactive movie type thing and this takes it a little far into a virtuals nuff type thing for my tastes.

[darth los]

i aint saying its gonna make people violent its just in real bad taste for the missions to be cutting someones knackers off or setting them on fire for the hell of it, dont know about you but i prefer the way games are meant to be a fun interactive movie type thing and this takes it a little far into a virtuals nuff type thing for my tastes. Whether we think it's in bad taste or not is irrelevant. I agree with you 100% that it's in bad taste. But other people have the right to buy it if they want to. It's like an old military saying: "I don't agree with what you said but i'll fight for the death for your right to say it."

[MinionZombie]

Here here to that "right to say it" thingy. But look at GTA and games like that, you can set fire to people, gun them down, run them over, rob them, beat them up. Manhunt 2 is just a little bit higher up the bar than that. I think gamers should be able to decide the merit of the game, not unresearched, tabloid hysteria. All this talk, but the game hasn't really been seen in action that much thus far. Things always sound worse than they actually are. When I played Manhunt I wondered what all the fuss was about, I really did. As for the laws in place, they're adequate, people just need to stick by them, but according to recent research most parents are paying attention to the ratings. If they still buy their kids the game, well, the industry simply cannot do anymore than they already are. They do plenty to uphold their end of the deal, if parents still give their kids the games - whether paying attention to the ratings or not - then that's their fault, not the fault of the industry. Besides, these anti-game whack-jobs really have no idea about the industry, the games themselves - or (and this is a big let down) the gamers actually doing the playing! The level of misunderstanding or refusal to understand is vast and wide with the nutters...feckin' losers. And as the average gamer age is what, 27 or 28 now, I think gamers are fully capable of deciding whether Manhunt 2 is a decent game or not. Decrying it without playing it is a bit daft, I have to be honest...that's what I've always believed in.